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October 19, 2017 at 9:23 am #24673
By Riya Saha Shah…. Ten-year-old Leah pretended to have sex with her younger step-siblings. She said it happened a few times and that she was just a
[See the full post at: WHY do we register children as sexual criminals?]
October 19, 2017 at 11:16 am #24678
My son had just turned 18. He had a court appointed attorney. His dna was inconclusive and now, he’s 28 with a unproductive life and me as a parent living it with him. Most of all. He’s homeless. A son and mother living miserable in Texas. He never had a teenage life and on it for a lifetime.
November 10, 2017 at 7:58 am #26847
My heart goes out to you and your son emma… Love your way…
October 19, 2017 at 11:22 am #24680
Moms get mad and make laws to punish men unconstitutionally the government starts wielding this new power against women and children now it is big news and a problem because moms are mad again. Solution is quite making stupid laws to satisfy vindictive angry moms.
October 19, 2017 at 12:07 pm #24685
With recidivism rates at 1-3 percent, the age and the nature of the event, what exactly is the point. Legislatures, who pretend to hold their head above the norms of society, go out of their way to enact draconian laws which do more harm then good. Justice is not served. Instead innocent lives are destroyed forever. All for the self righteousness of an over zealous minority group of egoistic politicians. Instead of using common sense, like counseling such ‘offender’s’ or juvenile probation, our justice system seeks them out, humiliates them and their families and often incarcerates them among a population of serious criminals. When it comes to ‘sex’ crimes as loosely defined in this article, our justice system is not working to protect the lives of citizens but is destroying the lives of innocence.
October 19, 2017 at 12:07 pm #24686
Thus us totally insane! What can we do to stop this.
October 19, 2017 at 12:14 pm #24691
Some of you may be interested in watching this documentary on this topic, by CNN’s Lisa Ling.
October 20, 2017 at 1:05 am #24790
…thank you for the Lisa Ling article/link!
October 19, 2017 at 1:00 pm #24698
Jeremy from Indiana
Remove the word “juvenile” from this entire article and it’s still just as true.
October 19, 2017 at 3:14 pm #24724
Alan R Hyde
I believe I have the answer but others would never believe my answer .. they would never believe it/
by the way, what we think is not what they list .. they go by blacks law…https://www.polskawalczaca.com/library/a.blackslaw4th.pdf
BLACK’S LAW DICTIONARY – Definitions of the Terms and Phrases of American and English Jurisprudence,
Ancient and Modern
HENRY CAMPBELL BLACK, M. A.
Please refer to page 1308 you find the word, OFFENDER…
OFFENDER. Commonly used in statutes to indicate person implicated in the commission of a
crime and includes person guilty of a misdemeanor. NOTE THE meaning of implication without a trail for which NO due process and Equal Protection… State ex rel. Smith v. Jameson, 70 S.D. 503, 19 N.W.2d 505, 508.
SEE Just THE IMPLICATION OF WHICH is justified to have anyone as a OFFENDER.
look at the word OFFENSE:
OFFENSE. A crime or misdemeanor; a breach of the criminal laws. People v. Brenta, 64 Cal.
App. 91, 220 P. 447; State v. Hirsch, 91 Vt. 330, 100 A. 877, 879; Ex parte Brady, 116 Ohio St. 512, 157
N.E. 69, 70. State v. Johnson, 212 N.C. 566, 194 S.E. 319, 322.
now as you see, Some one is implicated in a commission of a crime which the breach of criminal laws just on Implication alone with out DUE PROCESS of law.
here, a example. any one which has charges, are then deeded as a offender and which is a threat to the safety of the general good. because just the IMPLICATION without due process. if the same go es to trail … he is still a offender… age is not a factor it the IMPLICATION of a breach of contract.
now you start to see would anyone which they are allow to make contract but what of the ones which contracts are not because of their age.
this leads to a elem of well FRAUD…
note the word of fraud…. page 864.
FRAUD. An intentional perversion of truth for the purpose of inducing another in reliance upon it to part with some valuable thing belonging to him or to surrender a legal right; a false representation of a matter of fact, whether by words or by conduct, by false or misleading allegations, or by concealment of that which should have been disclosed, which deceives and is intended to deceive another so that he shall act upon it to his legal injury. Brainerd Dispatch Newspaper Co. v. Crow Wing County, 196 Minn. 194, 264 N.W. 779, 780.
Any kind of artifice employed by one person to deceive another. Goldstein v. Equitable Life Assur. Soc. of U. S., 160 Misc. 364, 289 N.Y.S. 1064, 1067.
A generic term, embracing all multifarious means which human ingenuity can devise, and which are resorted to by one individual to get advantage over another by false suggestions or by suppression of truth, and includes all surprise, trick, cunning, dissembling, and any unfair way by which another is cheated. Johnson v. McDonald, 170 Okl. 117, 39 P.2d 150.
“Bad faith” and “fraud” are synonymous, and also synonyms of dishonesty, infidelity, faithlessness, perfidy, unfair-ness, etc. Joiner v. Joiner, Tex.Civ.App., 87 S.W. 2d 903, 914, 915. [TEXAS LAW]
just to note.
October 19, 2017 at 2:27 pm #24716
i sorry the justice system has been broken for a long time, because of their position as a legislator their idiots ram laws
through trying to convince the public they are looking out for the common good. this has been a false narrative all along. they didnt have the intelligence to vision ahead, the cost to tax payers the burden put on communities, police departments, scare tatics, stated to the public to make them beleive there was a so called “SEXOFFENDER” hidding in every bush outside every home. BS they should be heald acountable for the outrageous claims they made to justify
their pandering for votes and the cost to those accused and their families. i spoke with a 17 year old who’s high school
girlfriend’s mother got mad and called the police on him after months of him staying at their house sleeping in his girlfriends room( the mother totally aware) he was wondering what will happen for him i told him his Dream of being an Dentist like his uncle was over, he would only find a good job if he started a business for himself, his opertunities in life were pretty much wiped out, he was crushed, people want to look down their nose and say he deserves it, “WRONG” on every level. he was no danger to anyone but they charged him with things he never did only to force him toward a plea bargain because of his parents not having the thousands of Dollars. ( some justice system.)
October 20, 2017 at 11:02 am #24825
No one is forced to take a plea bargain. They use a big sentence to scare you into it.
October 19, 2017 at 3:14 pm #24730
Our society is certainly at a point now where common sence and rational thought is non existent. History has shown that at that point is were things start to turn around. What kind of people support such absurd punishment. I can tell you all with sincere honesty that I and my husband are glad we grew up in a generation where “Leave it to Beaver” was a moral compass, unfortunately our children were not and now one of them suffers for it. Keep up the fight people and support Narsol and your state affiliate in whatever way you can.
October 19, 2017 at 4:27 pm #24735
Easy answer is that as a society we have become f’ed up beyond reason.
Until we get over this, then crap like this will happen over and over and over again.
October 19, 2017 at 4:48 pm #24739
Very shameful when the very system protecting children from such atrocities becomes the bully. They ought to be ashamed of themselves! If any such bureaucratic d__kwad is reading this right now, Shame on you!!!
October 19, 2017 at 4:49 pm #24738
While I feel for children on the registry I feel for all. I’d like to see the registry abolished for all. It’s a false sense of security… for those that thinks there’s a monster on every corner. It’s doing more harm than good. People are committing suicide because of it. That’s not ok. The registry is draconian.
October 19, 2017 at 5:46 pm #24742
Agree with “remove the word ‘juvenile'”. The “registry” serves no purpose. It never will. The recidivism rate could be zero. It only serves to give a select group of pompous politicians or self righteous individuals a higher calling. In other words, the true intention of the registry is it makes zealots feel good. But who doesn’t want to feel good ? Like an addictive drug they want more of it. In their parochial minds where bigotry and group think is the rule, legislatures with like minded constituents want a broader spectrum of “sex” laws with harsher penalties. It makes them feel good.
Soon the number of people in the U.S. on ‘registries’ will exceed 100,000. But in the minds of legislatures and their ilk that won’t be enough. It’s not just a means to mortally punish the offender (and their loved one’s) but is also a profitable business as well. More court’s, law enforcement, counselors, attorneys, correctional facilities, ad nauseam.
The offender should be punished for the crime. If the offender is a juvenile, litigation should be in a juvenile court. But the notion that a registry is an effective deterrence is false. It’s a method to label those who have offended as sub human’s and periahs. It affects them in a way that’s unimaginable.. for life. It impacts their loved one’s and those who are related to the offender. Yet we’re told it’s not punishment by the courts. Even though it made possible by court’s and legislatures and the pompous self righteous who get satisfaction thinking that it’s going to protect the defenseless. It makes them feel good.
The registry is open to the public, it’s on the internet forever, in detail for all the voyeurs who get satisfaction from looking at it. It’s only purpose is to further punish and shame a select group of people. If the registry worked, (and it never has) then a reasonable person would conclude that perhaps a registry for other crimes would work as well. More registries less crime. I don’t think so.
October 19, 2017 at 6:12 pm #24753
The number in January 2012 was 747,408
October 20, 2017 at 7:37 pm #24867
In my estimate, there is only one way to make these self righteous azure schnozzled folk feel really bad.
I do this by being successful,Financially secure,owning two houses,a business,and having a great lifestyle.
This is also my way of paying my debt to society, by being an asset to that society and not a burdon.
You can not pay any debt to society with humiliation,destitution,and being miserable.
I am sure it satisfies the basest of instincts of those who hoped that we had not survived incarceration
and still hope that we all die in a fire.
October 21, 2017 at 1:12 pm #24951
We live in a sick society. Children are not adults, should not be charged as adults or for many so called sex crimes. Normal child sex play and experimentation now a crime!? 6 year old children labeled as sex offenders! We know how many of our children have killed themselves over this stigma alone. We are human not animals. 40 years of witch hunt. We have to stop it. Get angry, fight back, demand justice and accountability. They are murderers. Join and start advocacy groups now, get your voice out, United we can make changes, power in numbers. We need to protect our children against the same liars that claim to do the same but doing just the opposite. Act now, refuse to put up with the abuse any longer