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September 19, 2020 at 5:06 pm #76630
By Mark Shenefelt SALT LAKE CITY — State officials are considering changes to the sex offender registry, starting with deeper data gathering to determ
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September 20, 2020 at 6:11 am #76643
We all know where this is REALLY going. They are NEVER, going to let anyone off the hook. Get ready for Storm Troopers to break into your house any time they want to…just because they can, and harass you…again, because they can and don’t give a damn about Your Rights because-and remember this too-YOU DON’T HAVE ANY ANYMORE!
Welcome to The Communist/Gestapo States of Amerika…Comrade!
September 20, 2020 at 6:12 am #76644
Victim’s Advocates…. ugh. I can see why they are trying to include them, but either someone is a danger or they aren’t. There is no correlation between who committed the crime or who is the victim to what the level of risk is of the one found guilty. While I am glad Utah is actually trying to make changes, I fear involving ones who sole purpose is to make sure those convicted have as few rights as possible will hamper any meaningful change. It is unfortunate because in many cases the victims actually want the ones who offended to be able to move on, but many victims advocates view that is loss of revenue or in direct contrast to their agenda.
September 20, 2020 at 6:14 am #76647
I do not understand what the under reported has to do with those already on the registry. All the credible data shows those low to moderate risk have the lowest reoffense rate. Also the data may show a slight correlation between treatment and reoffense but for any crime not just sex crime. Also the mentiin of those who commited lesser crimes and received probation is not a true statement. Many have committed crimes who recieved orobation that others have been sent to prison. I would also argue there is nothing I have seen which shows a correlation between years on the registry and reoffending. Unless they are basing on public opinion or political reasons.
September 20, 2020 at 4:59 pm #76659
Well I am glad to see a state looking to make changes, I am still wondering why you would not have a ex-offender as part of this group. Being we would have or be in the best place to know how, why, and best practices for prevention. I am also concerned with the whole rating thing. There is NO ONE that can tell me or anyone else what they are thinking, so to use this as a means of saying a person is more or less to commit another offense or even a first offense is irrational thinking. Even using past behavior as a means to determine if a person will reoffend is irrational, as it goes against the whole premise that people change. We can not live in the past, and using a persons past to make future decisions puts that person in the past as well as all who want to live in that thought process. People need to be allowed to move forward with their lives, and place the past in the past, what has happened in the past does not have to determine one future, unless, and only unless that person chooses to live in the past and not move on.
September 20, 2020 at 5:00 pm #76660
Tim in WI
Mormons will be Mormons,
Hard to find a religious group that does a better job of record keeping surrounding their flock. Naturally then the prerequisites demand for ” deeper data collection ” emphasized as the need to affect an efficient registry evidences itself. The Mormons built the facility in which IML\Project Angel Watch promulgated by their own volition. Frankly I believe they had to do it to defend themselves from the corrupting nature of D.C. Politics especially the Catholic influence whom they have long been at odds with. But these are not their only foils as the progressive
socal-ists leftists are closer still geographically.
The claim in this piece is merely justification for the state of UTAH to be more nosey and not more effective.
September 26, 2020 at 7:31 pm #76838
Parmley said 25 states have a three-tier risk assessment process that allows registrants to appeal for removal from the list based on “risk reduction over time with rehab
What 25 states have this tiered system?
September 26, 2020 at 7:31 pm #76840
Ahhh the great logical paradox of the “unreported re-offenses.” If it turns out there aren’t any then it proves the Registry is not necessary, If it turns out there are a lot of them, it proves the registry doesn’t work.
September 27, 2020 at 1:21 am #76847
I am a registrant here in Utah. I had more hope after seeing this story then I have in years. My dad was the one that showed it to me and for the first time in a very long and stressful time I saw the light at the end of the tunnel. I was able to get in contact with Rep. Paul Ray and he told me that he will review the report that I am going to send him about recidivism rates and how they go down; not up. I was also able to talk to the director of the Utah State Sentencing Commission, Monica Diaz, and she told me that she would also be reviewing the report.
I am required to register for life for a crime that I committed back when I was fourteen years old. I am thirty three now. I am really trying to get the public to really understand that we are not the boogey-man in the closets and under the beds. I am trying to show that I, and people in my same position, deserve to reintegrate myself back into society and be a productive member of society. I am ready for the Utah State Legislature to understand that we are still citizens and we can reintegrate.
I started a group called Utah Sex Offender Rehabilitation Group and I invite all those who are in Utah who want to support my efforts. Even those out of Utah that would like to show your support I would greatly appreciate it.
September 27, 2020 at 2:22 pm #76866
I am an ex offender and on the registry currently for life for a mistake that I made back when I was 14. I am 33 now
September 30, 2020 at 8:22 am #76903
I was one of the adcocates that helped Faye and Wendy and provided Carl Hansen’s recidivism study. I also made public comment on this issue as a registrant and a victim advocate but you’ll never hear my scarlet ThrowAway name ever mentioned. People are ruled by fear. Fear of the unknown, fear of the stigma and i think in fear of the truth. If more registrants would step up to this we would then have a voice to be reckoned with. The facts are on our side. Every aspect of the sex offender process is punitive and thats what keeps us down. Its not easy for me but Ive had enough of this mistreatment and thats what we need to keep in mind. When will you draw the line and say “enough is enough” and join your fellow comrades in the fight for true justice. We are in great numbers, lets get together and end this once and for all. United we stand!
September 30, 2020 at 8:25 am #76906
David Speth get in contact with me through NARSOL. I have filed multiple complaints with the ACLU about lifetime registration maybe we can get something going.
October 1, 2020 at 11:48 am #76925
Folks of Utah, as your state representative I encourage you to contact me so that we may work together in changing these laws.
October 1, 2020 at 1:53 pm #76927
Jeff, I am not a resident of Utah so I have no real say, but as a representative, a great start to making sure facts are used over fear and politics, ensure that a organization like narsol is involved in the data, if not directly involved right along side of politicians, special interest groups and victim advocates.
October 19, 2020 at 7:04 pm #77479
I was just reading through the comments on this article and wanted to reach out to you. I am working on building a program specifically for helping SO’s reintegrate into society become home owners over 5 years. We are rolling out the program in February 2021 in Ogden.
I would like to know more about your group and discuss how we can work together to enact some real change around laws and policies that affect people trying to get back on their feet when society seems to be firmly stuck to a belief of perpetual punishment.
I am a family member of and friend to a large number of SO’s in this area all the way to Provo. I live and experience the hardships SO’s face every day. I believe that the registry requirement is only part of the issue, the fact that it is available to the public is the real issue. When the public can see and judge a person by their past behavior and limit their access to necessities, we have a very serious problem. We want to make a dent in remedying that problem.
Please email me at firstname.lastname@example.org at your convenience. I’d like to discuss how we might be able to help each other.
Have a great rest of your day!