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October 19, 2017 at 1:44 am #24656
[See the full post at: This Is Life With Lisa Ling–Age Of Consent]
October 19, 2017 at 2:44 pm #24725
Very interesting video. Thanks NARSOL for posting it.
When is it appropriate to charge a child as an adult, which is an underlying theme here, and suffer the adult consequences from childhood to adulthood? The quandary that legislatures nationwide face.
One thing that comes to mind is will this give school districts pause now to consider making high schools a three year high school (sophomore-seniors, grades 10-12)? My school district high school was this way (before becoming a four year high school), so it is not impossible to do it. You can potentially decrease the chances of these things from happening but not completely if the freshmen are participating in high school athletics at JV or Varsity levels. There was occasionally the sophomore/freshman relationship, but don’t recall any Junior (Senior)/Freshman relationships, but supposed there could have been.
Could also stem the tide of faculty/freshman relationships that seem to be happening in larger numbers or at least being reported more often.
October 26, 2017 at 11:19 am #25505
“When is it appropriate to charge a child as an adult” Never if they are to immature to give consent to something they are to immature to have the mental culpability for adult level crime. This is all just BS to take away rights and fund the government they are not trying to protect anyone. Who is going to protect the teens from the government? They are creating a group of citizens who do not have all their constitutional rights do you relay think this is not on purpose? the end game is a giant potion of our society without constitutional rights look what they can do to sex offenders.
October 19, 2017 at 4:27 pm #24734
I am in utter horror at what they did to that poor guy. I am glad he doesn’t have to register, but what does it matter when that stigma of convicted felon still follows him. No one under the age of 18 should very rarely wear that badge of shame, and never in a case like this, where they don’t even look at the fact of consent.
October 19, 2017 at 5:23 pm #24743
The children are our future. It’s a d__ned shame to see such young, promising individuals cut down in the prime of life when despite a moment of bad judgment, they otherwise had so much to give to the world. These greedy bureaucratic scumbags in their futile attempts to further their careers and attain wealth turn these children into sacrificial lambs! Frankly, the thought of it pi__es me off. Here are children that could’ve went the distance and made good 5-6 figure salaries contributing to the common good now busted down to collecting a welfare check from the very entity that crippled them because they can’t so much as push a broom for 8 bucks a hour because even the lowliest of employers insist on a background check like it’s a security clearance for the Pentagon. Completely shameful! Kick em’ when their down and keep them in their places. That’s the American way. Shameful!
October 20, 2017 at 8:03 am #24812
He’s is guilty. But the punishment does not fit the crime. Laws need to be changed.
October 22, 2017 at 1:48 pm #25014
Let’s get it straight…. He is guilty of a statutory infringement. The fact that she testified that she didn’t want to but told him she did, well, guess what, that is consent. Without the statutes, he is perfectly innocent. Thus the problem with age of consent. We tell young people that they have the right to say no, but not the right to say yes?
Once the prosecutor said that consent didn’t matter, they should have thrown the case out on a travesty of justice and disbarred that lady. I know I am being a little harsh here, but I hate seeing young peoples lives ruined because they followed their natural hormonal instincts.
October 26, 2017 at 12:33 pm #25519
A great big thumbs up 👍🏻 to everything you said.
If consent doesn’t matter, they may as well say non-consent doesn’t matter either. How does “yes” mean “no”?
Prosecutors looking to add more convictions to their resumes need to be disbarred. People who become prosecutors, probation and parole officers have some serious inferiority complexes and need to stroke their own egos.
October 23, 2017 at 12:07 pm #25130
Humans all have an intrinsic need for intimacy. The more we move away from interpersonal socialisation via antisocial medias TV and gaming the more we will see behavior outside the norm. So in short you can look for it to get worse. The computer is a damn poor substitute for actual human touch. Americans are starving and the results will not be good. IMHO.
November 13, 2017 at 2:23 pm #26999
You nailed it, Tim.
Intimacy substitution (porn, fantasy, etc) will only grow as children are now brought up in a world where person to person access options grow and bridge the gap of actual person to person contact.
I knew for myself and others that intimacy (or the substitution of) was a key issue in acting out.
It was not until your post that I realized how far reaching that will be and how we are set up for it to become a societal norm.
November 1, 2017 at 6:08 pm #25952
So if Zach had willingly engaged in an unforced relationship with his teacher or club soccer coach, he again would be a ‘child’.
“…may not have sexual contact or sexual intercourse with a child who has attained the age of 16 years, who is not the person’s spouse, and with whom the person works or interacts through that occupation or volunteer position.” 948.095(3)(a).
Very happy for Zach, but wondering why he does not have to register? 948.02(2) – “Second-Degree Sexual Assault of a Child” appears to be an offense requiring registration.
Re. “Blake” – I simply have no words, other than to say I praise the Lord every day my kids grew up in a time before this insanity.
Lastly – trying to figure out our government’s motivation to ruin as many lives as possible – for life. And how those prosecutors sleep at night…
November 5, 2017 at 9:08 am #26332
Our government wonders why there is so much anti government sentiment..No one any where in the world likes the American government..
When I watch the news and I see what our news media calls “terrorists” It rings in the back of my head : ” How much evil did our government do to that person that they felt giving up their life to make a statement was the only resort?” Why do you think those people are so willing to give up their lives? Do you think they value their lives less then we do? Or are they sick and tired of the American government in their country’s making them less then human and taking away their family’s as well?
Our entire government actively goes out of its way to be as corrupt and dishonest as possible and at the same time poses impossible to follow laws and restrictions upon the common person..
I may sound callous but I really can not find any sympathy for a government official when they are targeted by an extremist.. Honestly the first thing goes into my mind is I am glad the extremist is finally attacking the right person and leaving the poor citizens alone..
I watch the registry and I cant help but wonder is that what they are trying to do at home? Are they deliberately taking everything they can away from people at home (family,children,liberty,freedom) and flaunting their ability to live above the laws they impose just to see how long it takes before they create here at home the same turmoil they created over seas?
March 21, 2018 at 7:55 pm #37404
Re the Newman case I don’t understand why the prosecuting attorney wouldn’t consider a plea bargain!
June 15, 2018 at 7:15 am #42118
I sooooo hope for the best for Zach in his life.
He deserves it. 🙏🙏🙏
January 23, 2019 at 9:06 pm #51304
Sooo sad this happened to my son and he has been in prison for 14 years. The judge gave 26 years to life. He is a role model prisoner and has not been in any trouble since day one. He is the prison chaplain. Colorado is the worse state to be accused with a crime like this.
February 28, 2019 at 8:22 am #52629
Why do murderers roam the streets w/o being labeled?
To ruin teenagers lives because they were exploring with their rageing hormones and just living life with no intent to cause harm, shows how corporate America’s judicial system is unjust.
Makes you wonder how many politicians and those on the SOMB or SORNA board members did the exact same thing when they were in high school.
The registry is nothing but a money pit. To put all SO under one size fits all registry rules and require polygraphs, is proof, its all about the money.
The media (CNN in particular) is notorious for withholding politicians (old enough to know better) names from the public for sex related crimes and walk away with a slap on the wrist. On the other hand, innocent teenagers who meant no harm are prosecuted without a chance to live and enjoy life.
while teenagers and young adu lives all for the sake of money!