The sex offender registry: an invitation for vigilantism

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      Sandy Rozek
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        By Steve Yoder . . . Steve posts at his blog, http://www.lifeonlist.org, one of the few blogs out there dedicated to sex offense registry issues and t
      [See the full post at: The sex offender registry: an invitation for vigilantism]

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      Tod

      This story is sadly all too common, but what you don’t see, is the same thing that happens on the Internet. In a way, that can be significantly more damaging when people are posting and spreading someone’s name throughout social media and other websites. I know someone who is happened to recently, and although it is the same thing, harassment, he was told nothing can be done because they are spreading “truthful” information, yet he could lose friends, family and even a job because of it. He even knows the person who was spreading the information around, yet powerless to defend himself. In doing so, he desperately sought out measures to get his name removed from some of these websites, and that created potentially more problems, including breaking the law, but he listened to his gut, and did not cross a line, but still has been hurt significantly because one person decided she needed to “spread the word“ in a mean vindictive way. So it’s pretty obvious when somebody spray paints something on your door, but that doesn’t mean it’s the only way people get hurt or being on the registry.

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        Kendal

        Yeah, my life was thrown out on the internet. I have many web pages dedicated to telling the world how awful I am, and even putting up my credit history because, well being a sex offender wasn’t bad enough. I even got banned from facebook because people who were supposed to be at least cordial with me, raped my name and reputation. I was the organizer of a local convention that went down the drain after ten years because people decided that I shouldn’t be running it, because I was a sex offender. And now I only have a couple of friends, where I used to have a lot of people that liked me and talked to me all the time. And all because this was on record, and out there for the world to see. And the really sad part, it was simple groping between friends over 25 years ago. And there has been no run-ins with the law since.

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          Maestro

          “ it was simple groping between friends over 25 years ago. And there has been no run-ins with the law since.”

          Kendal, so you mean it was pretty much the same type of thing that most likely was done by the very people who shunned you and shamed you? Don’t you just love hypocrites?
          You should make a new FB page with a new email address and a made up name. Then try to refriend all those goodie-two-shoes and when you’ve got all or most of them back on your friends list, that’s when you make a post about how they are all good for nothings who have probably done things in their life times that COULD BE CONSIDERED “sexual offenses”.
          Then, because I’m sure many if not all, are religious, as them why they bother with a “god” if they’re going to be so heartless and judgmental anyway?

          I’m the kind of person who would stick it to them like that. We all should start being this way.
          Word got around in my job that I’m on the registry because people like to assume that everyone has a FB page (well, I actually do but under a made up “artistic” name), and since a few of my coworkers couldn’t find me, they googled my name.
          When someone says to me “You’re a sex offender” I say back to them “And you’re a judgemental moron. So would you like a cookie or would you prefer to get back to work and mind your own business?”

          When you don’t give them the reaction they’re expecting and you just let their knowledge of your record roll off your shoulders, it tends to shut them down and they eventually leave you alone because they see they’re not “getting” to you.

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            Jonny everyman

            Its ironic you accuse christians of being judgemental buy you assume all his criticizers are christian. You may be the biggrst hypocrite of all Phil

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      obvious answers

      To start I would like to tip my hat to the article author:
      Mr.Yoder always does fantastic work. The one voice of logic and reason in an other wise dismal jungle. I remember a piece he did on my family a few years ago. Followed the facts was fair and unbiased and really impressed me with the compassion he demonstrated. A damn good journalist and maybe one of the few left.

      As a note on the article:
      It is sad to see that the human race has not evolved far from the torch and pitch forks. Still nothing but mindless beasts rutting in the fields with nothing but instinct and blind emotion to guide them. Science wonders why they cant find the missing link between man and ape? Maybe we are looking at evolution in the wrong direction..Who says man is a step up from the monkey? As large of brain as God gifted us with and so few people able to utilize any of it. I have seen better miracles from Jane Goodall’s chimpanzees then I have most group think humans..

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        Maestro

        “Its ironic you accuse christians of being judgemental buy you assume all his criticizers are christian. You may be the biggrst hypocrite of all Phil”

        Hey, hey Jonny,

        How can I be a hypocrite when I’m neither a christian or leftist?
        I reserve the right to criticize and be judgmental.
        I don’t judge people by their past failures unless they continue the same thing over and over again. Like for example: if someone KNOWS they have a drug addiction but they don’t care and being in and out of prison or rehab doesn’t seem to wake them up. Then yes, I will judge them. So…..? Your point?

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          Jonny everyman

          Phil I have dealt with compassionate Christians and with liberals who believe in sex offender law reform.

          So how about you stop putting everyone in a box like you accuse them of doing to you eh?

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            Maestro

            jonny,

            Those “compassionate” Christians and liberals are out numbered.

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      Mother of a sex offender

      When my 20 year old son was arrested in 2015 for having consensual with a 16 year old and exchanges pics of each other; the Chicago chronicle posted a story about his arrest that had very little true to it… of course as a mom I jumped immediately to defend him and all of the lies they were saying about him and his arrest… many people put in their 2 senses and some were very rude to me… but there was a guy who was very aggressive and threaten to go after my son and making pay for being a #@! Pedophile, and of course I challenge his threat by saying, ok you and how many more are going to come get my son? Because he’s got many friends and family members around him… he immediately changed his demeanor and backed off… the chronicle deleted all of the comments and left the my son’s pic and their lies… there’s was no way to comment it anymore. I wish there was a way to get them to remove the lies and pics of my child.

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        Terry

        Someone needs to explain to the one who threatened your son what the definition of pedophile is. This is the problem…all who are on the list are not pedophiles. The people who do and say these things have nothing better to do than to hurt others because they can not get rid their own hurt and insecurities. Tell your son to LIVE his life and don’t worry about the idiots out there. I have been on the list for over three years and have a wonderful life, I am proof you can live while being on the list. You just have to create a NEW NORMAL and understand the boundaries like any other law we must follow in society. If all we do is worry and complain about the list and the ignorant people in this world then all we will do is complain about the list and the ignorant people in this world. Why waist your time on people who don’t care for you or their actions. Be vigilant, aware of your surroundings, this holds true for everyone on the list and off and just live, create, love and find joy and peace in all things. If we don’t do this then what do we have. Peace be with you and your family.

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          Richard OToole MS

          Beautifully stated. Everyone should reflect on your insight. It is unfortunate some of us forget that we don’t have to accept the image projected on us by others.

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          Jonny everyman

          Also one of my pet peeves. Pedophilia refers to prepubescent children. Not saying a girl 4 years younger than you.

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      Gary George

      When you combine the fear-mongering with the publication of names, addresses, picture and offense, with the fact that you do not allowed registrants to own weapons of self-defense, and you’ve got a recipe for tragedy.

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        SW

        Exactly! I’ve heard that in North Dakota the law is so broad that (paraphrasing) “the offender is not allowed to own anything that can be used as a deadly weapon”. Well that includes 2×4’s, rocks, kitchen knives. With that kind of law it’s awfully easy to get sent to jail, even when used to defend oneself.

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          Kurt Martin

          SW: This North Dakota law or rule you have heard about– does it apply to every convicted person, or just those on the Registry, or just people on parole or probation currently? Do you have any citation to any such law we could look up?

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        Kurt Martin

        I’m guessing that in most jurisdictions in the USA, even former felons can have some type of defensive weapons or tools, at least at home (the laws about carrying weapons on the street are a lot stricter, and more common across the USA). Not guns– not if the person has been convicted of any felony or even a “family violence ” or “domestic violence” misdemeanor. And nobody who is currently on parole or probation (felony probation) can have any sort of weapon either.

        But for a person whose sentence has been fully completed and is not under any kind of supervision, I think most states do allow some sort of weapons for home defense.

        Here in Georgia, any firearm is off-limits, but edged weapons and impact weapons would be legal, generally. So would all the “non lethal” alternatives like tasers, stun guns, chemical sprays like MACE, OC, pepperspray, etc. Our law against felons in possession of guns applies to firearms only (including black powder and muzzle-loaders) and some sort of space weapon the legislature envisioned 50 years ago– something that propels a bullet through an electrical charge (Gauss gun? Mag-lev rail gun???)

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      Scott

      Vigilantes are a BIG problem for registered citizens. I got pretty shook up when I came home to find a piece of paper taped to my door that instructed me I had 30 days to notify my neighbors that I was a sex offender. It had a 9th District Court logo/seal on it and was signed by a sheriff. I took it to my probation officer. Phony as three dollar bill. We are in the 10th District and we don’t have sheriffs, we have police officers. But someone was bold enough to come to my front door obviously motivated by my recent inclusion onto the registry.
      I immediately went out and got a security camera set up and put a camera on the front porch in plain site (you want it in plain site as a deterrent – no point in having video evidence of who killed or maimed you). I am thinking that is not enough. What if they don’t see the camera? Home Depot has a selection of signs you can put up that should make anyone think twice –
      https://www.homedepot.com/p/Lynch-Sign-14-in-x-10-in-24-Hour-Video-Surveillance-Sign-Printed-on-More-Durable-Thicker-Longer-Lasting-Styrene-Plastic-W-13/202392977

      Again, the point is prevention.

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        SW

        I think it’s the only defense we have, since we’re stripped of every other way to defend ourselves. Video and/or audio is hard to deny.

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        Mick

        This is in response to Scott’s post in 2018. His suggestion of installing security cameras is on point. Every sex offender should be notified of this action, either by the court(upon sentencing), or by their attorney, or at least by their probation/parole officer;however, anyone who has been convicted or on court ordered supervison or anyone in their circle knows that information may never be given out by the authorities. After the murder of my brother , who was on probation for posession of child pronogeraphy , by a delusional individual who stated in his remarkes at at sentencing, “I know that law enforcement could’nt do it” , I kept asking myself how could this have been prevented. Among some maybe’s I came up with was security system. A painful but obvious answer, among others that come up in hindsite. A tradegy may have been avoided. My brother tormented and remorseful for his actions, was clasified as a low threat,yet the sex offender registry, made possible for a vigilante to stalk him and eventually murder him in cold blood. A security camera may have deterred this horrible action, the registry only aided it.

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      SW

      That sent chills down my back. That building looked really familiar (but it’s not). Everyone that I knew where it came out in the news had something happen to their property, but thankfully none to themselves. Slashed tires being the preferred method. Hopefully, with a new congress and president we’ll get some things changed.

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        Jonny everyman

        I am sorry you are so naieve. Our president called Anthony Weiner a pervert. He doesn’t care about registrants.

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          Kurt Martin

          So Donald Trump called Anthony Weiner a pervert. So what? So would most Americans, if asked. The guy was cheating on his wife, sending XXX porn pics of himself all over the internet, and sexting with a 15 year old girl.
          He’s in federal prison right now, serving nearly 2 years for distributing porn to minors.
          Calling such a guy a “pervert” doesn’t mean that Trump would agree that Weiner can never be part of society again, or that he should be hunted-down and killed by vigilantes when he gets out of prison. Get a grip.

          Not everybody who won’t give warm welcoming hugs to sex offenders at every opportunity wants to see them victimized for the rest of their lives.

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            Jonny everyman

            Funny how judgemental you are on Weiner. You do realize the number of people on this site who were convicted for having sexual contact with minors right?

            Who are you to judge?

            Typical hypocritical Trump voter.

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            Maestro

            Hey, hey Johnny,

            Where in Kurt’s comment is he being “hypocritical”?
            And what’s wrong with being a supporter of Trump?
            I’d rather support Trump than show support to the “peaceful” leftist groups who scream and yell in people’s faces and push and shove people who aren’t part of their political views.
            Oh and vandalize business and private property in the name of “acceptance and equality”.
            Spare us all your Trump hatred. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again , this time for YOU;

            Liberals are 99.9% feminists and feminists think every male is a rapist. So please explain to us all how supporting a democrat is any better in our situations?

            I’ll wait.

          • #31489 Reply
            Fred
            Fred
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            There are lots of left leaning liberals and feminists in this organization fighting for your rights, and there are plenty of right leaning people here as well. To my knowledge none of them behave or even believe in the violence you described. Antifa doesn’t represent the Democratic party any more than the racist white nationalists represent the Republican party.

            I think Jonny’s question about laws in red states being harsher is an interesting topic for discussion. I don’t know if it’s true, but I am curious, so if we can get some respectful discussion going on that, I would like to read it. Maestro, you seem to believe strongly in the right’s agenda, so let’s hear your side of that. Do you think blue state’s sexual offense laws tend to be harsher than red states?

            I do not want to see this left vs right bashing using stereotypes continue. I will not approve any more comments from anyone who is trying to provoke an argument on those grounds. As soon as I get the impression that is the direction the comment is going, I will delete it without reading any further, and the person who typed it will just have figuratively wasted their breathe and time. But you are all welcome to have a discussion with a respectful tone on how and why you think either side better serves those on the registry.

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            Jonny everyman

            I know Washington, new York are left leaning states with no notification for level one offenders. What are the other states with no public notification of level one offenders.

          • #31720 Reply
            Fred
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            I think Maestro said he is in Connecticut and will be off probation and the registry this coming summer. That sounds like good news to me. I would like to hear more about that. Is Connecticut considered a blue or red state?

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            Maestro

            Fred,

            I honestly don’t know which way my state leans politically as whole. But we have a democrat governor and we also have “sanctuary areas” that both the governor and the senator (former Attny Gen. Richard Blumenthal) have put in place.
            Richard Blumenthal, a democrat, is also the guy who kick started the “get ALL the RSO off of Facebook” hysteria.

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            Jonny everyman

            You call out liberals but you know the christians you were calling out for a lack of conpassion you do realize most of them are conservatives right?

            Its not just feminist who dont care for sex offenders I hope you arent that naive (although your post here suggest otherwise)

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            Jonny everyman

            Notice the states with the harshest rules towards sex offenders are red states?

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      Randy in PA

      My God, this has got to stop.

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      T

      I think that the public notifications are a bad idea and has always been a bad idea from the very beginning, because it’s an invitation to commit a violent crime, but what’s crazy about this is that vigilantes that are caught are being branded as heroes by the uneducated public.

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      JR

      Unfortunately, this type of article is what this countries media loves – fear mongering. This is never going to change. Fortunately they do act as a record of sorts for future legal battles to end the registry.

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      Sharon

      I called 911 on vigilantes and the cops beat me up! Long story but I’m afraid to write it all because I don’t want anything to identify me. I am small, elderly and handicapped. Husband is the RSO.

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      Tim Lawver

      To be sure having an electronic database broadcasting to the public has lead to other violence that would not have occurred had the electronic broadcast been absent. In other words the SOR HAS CAUSED some crimes, many serious, including arson, murder, assault with weapons and words. I personally have experienced minor stuff like broken car windows, flattened tires, having my home egged. I have attempted to file reports with the local PD, but the cops demand I prove the motivation behind the acts. Others motives are very hard to prove, so basically you have no defense.

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      Richard OToole MS

      When we were children most of us were told “Sticks and stones can break your bones but names will never hurt you”. Well that was before the vindictive registries and social media in the hands of “sick” people. I found mental relief by doing what I am capable of in resisting those who hate so much that they take pleasure in harming others. I was delighted to find and join NARSOL. I contribute when I can to the legal fund and encourage my friends to do the same as part of their social justice outreach. Although we can no longer vote, I actually do “by proxy”. There are close to a million of us on the registry who feel we cant engage vicious politicians who do as much as they can to heap misery on registrants. Find a relative or friend who thinks as you do and who usually skips voting. Encourage and remind them that they {we} can make a difference in numbers at the polls. On election day remind them and perhaps have lunch together and drive them to the polls; yes take grandma who knows you are a good person ! There are millions of convicted felons in this country who have lost the right to vote and who could swing national elections by using { “the proxy way}.

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      Brian

      Ya know I was thinking the other day, if we fear vigilantes then that gives them more power to abuse rso’s, if you defend yourself against a vigilante then that makes us violent animals, (self defense) It goes like this you defend yourself against them, the media camera man shows up and starts filming, this is just a synereo going through my head now, reporter, breaking news violent sex offender attackes innocent bystanders doing right for the community, I know sick thought but I could see it happening if it hasn’t happened yet.

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      Saddles

      Vigilantism or a pride goeth before the fall. Wonder who’s stepping on who’s toes. Common sense is man going to get his last harrah in all this sex offender ordeal in this day and age. Sure man wants to solve all their problems from a computer base or or some time in a bottle capsule but this sex ordea effects everyone.
      Should we hang’em high or hang’em low. Show we go on an adult chat site, pose as a teenager thru some internet device to round em up by some trick rodeo scheme and than colect the money as after we are the public servents to protect and serve. Sounds a little double standard to me, and in the end who gets the victory. I would put in some biblical reference but that wouldn’t be logic or wisdom would it. I image should be proud than.

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      Peter Henson

      It really gets under my skin when I hear of a registered citizen getting harassed just because they are a sex offender. Luckily I haven’t been bothered by any one yet and I have been on the registry for 14 + years. I think in North Carolina where I live it is a felony to harass a sex offender but I might be wrong. That steltz guy shouldn’t be worried about those 4 sex offenders living next door to him,at least he knows they are there. And the fact that they know that he knows that they are there is probably why he hasn’t any trouble with them. The guy could sell his house and move but then he might move next door to someone who’s not on the registry and they could start messing with his kids. If I were him I would rather have a sex offender I knew about living next to me as opposed to one I didn’t know about. People are so worried about sex offenders moving in next door to them that they don’t realize that someone whose not on the registry could just as easily move in next door and start screwing with their kids. I really hope that something will change this year and it will get better for us. When will this madness end!

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      Kurt Martin

      Sex offender registries have both a legitimate purpose (warn women and parents of children that there’s a person with a history of sex crimes living or working nearby) and two unlawful purposes: 1: public shaming, as an ex-post-facto punishment that was not part of any court-ordered sentence, and 2: an invitation to private harassment, discrimination, and victimization by assault, terroristic threats, and other crimes.

      The danger of exposing registrants to hate crimes by serving up their personal information on a platter for stalkers and vigilantes and domestic terrorists to use is obvious in light of how hated sex offenders are. People who normally have a reasoned and balanced view of criminal justice and punishment lose their freakin’ minds when the subject of sex offenders comes up. Bubba, who just moved in to that rental house down the street, is a former armed robber who just got released from probation and moved-out of a state halfway house? “Well, the State says he’s rehabilitated and has paid his debt to society, and they’re in a position to know, so who am I to argue?”

      But if Bubba is a sex offender who exposed himself to a child, did some time in jail, went to counseling and therapy, and has completed his term of probation successfully, the men in the community say: “F’kin liberal judges let another pervert loose to prey on our children. I’ll bet Bubba is walking around our houses at night peeping in our windows looking for his next victim. No, I’ve never seen him, or anybody else, behaving that way, but it doesn’t matter. I know how it is with those people. That’s how they are. They never stop. Somebody ought to just put a couple bullets in his head and dump him in the swamp for the ‘gators to eat.”

      THAT kind of thinking is the “new normal” for at least most conservative Americans, and possibly all Americans.
      THAT’s why sex offender registries are especially dangerous to the registrants.
      Normal American citizens don’t openly talk about murdering other kinds of ex-felons (or misdemeanor offenders for any other kind of crime). But they love to brag about how they’d like to see sex offenders tortured and killed.

      Due process? Cruel and Unusual punishment? Nah, that stuff is for real American citizens. Sex offenders aren’t even human, much less Americans. They don’t deserve any of the protections in the Bill of Rights.

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      Anthony

      There is no such thing as a child safety zone because children are anywhere and everywhere at any given time day or night by themselves or with somebody else. This a figment of your imagination as is so many feet from any school,park,church or where children gather. The registry and residential restrictions are useless for protecting children. They should all be abolished.

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      Saddles

      What is war? Is it helping somebody or should it be hindering somebody. Now some of you would rather toss the bible out the window, but the bible is the foundation of America. You take that out of justice and what do you have?
      Sur3e there is always gonna be someone to con others thru decit or tricky.such as these internet sex sting operations.. you have two spirits talking to another.
      Doesn’t God’s word say try the spirits. Should we all get our computer data bases out and check that out or should we just bow down to man’s fleshy wisdom?
      Now who’s doing this vigilantism type of Jack and Jill. So can we rightfully say who’s authority is overshadowing the creator.

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      Joe L

      You know we get a lot of grief from people mainly because they believe that sex offenders are generally passive individuals. If we were to defend ourselves from people that try to harm us they would quickly want to remove those registries. I have been on the registry for fourteen years for a statutory case I caught sixteen years ago. I stay armed to the teeth in my home. I don’t own any guns but I have bats, knives, swords, and I hit an MMA bag daily. I am just waiting for the day one of my harassers gets bold enough to come onto my property and try something. I will make front page news of that person. Then when I have to talk to the courts I will gladly tell them why all that had to happen. This is because when the news reports about a sex offender getting injured, harassed, or killed the public doesn’t care. They just think “oh well, just another one of them we don’t have to worry about”. If someone gets killed by a sex offender who’s defending themselves then they will really worry. That will probably be the type of thing that will rush them to remove these bully lists. That’s what they are. It’s just lists of people that it is ok for people to bully. America has a huge problem with bullying. I saw one registry that warned people not to “harass or stalk potentially dangerous people” on their website. It didn’t say don’t do it to anyone, just the ones that may cause harm. That’s why people on these registries need to be more assertive. We need more home defense and home security cams to catch our assailants and put the spotlight on what they are actually doing. When we fight back against the public they will have no choice but to change up how that registry is maintained if not remove it completely.

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      Saddles

      People I believe a lot of this sex offender registry is a lot about human emotions. Sure safegarding is good but when vigilitanism comes into play someone isn’t not playing fair. I’m sure everyone is upset with their son or daughter getting wrapped up in all this but situations happen in life. Remember we are not model Christians are we.

      Sure I don’t like the name sex offender or being on the registry. The wearwolf of London restry sounds a bit better but still its a dirty trick to play on anyone to set them up for some fall but we all still have a battle for our fellow men and women on here and true justice should and will be served. Sometimes I believe we are all childish in a way and others don’t care about us but they do and thats why NARSOL is there to help.

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      Brian

      Joe L
      The screwed up thing is there are a couple guys that’s live near me who are women beaters, I’ve seen them arrested any time but hey that type of sht must be ok, never got charged because the woman dropped the charges, but get if you go and date a girl who lies about her age them you get charged by the da even though she lied and everything was consensual.
      As for self defense you know you can’t just go beet the sht out of someone just because they spray painted your house, you can chase them away, once they put hands on you then all bets are off my man, I would make an example out of that one for sure, I have been getting bullied by someone at work so i got really fed up with this guy, I told him to leave me the f alone and said do you have a problem with me and some other choice words, I’m not a violent person but people want to push push push and think I’m not going to stand up for myself because I’m an SO, I got news for people, your wrong my friend very wrong and I think a lot more people are tired of it and won’t be taking people sht no more to. I will defend myself but I won’t strike until I am hit first.

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      Joe L

      You know what Brian? Since you brought up the woman beater instance I would like to mention that two of the people that have brought up my past were frequent woman beaters. What seems to be no coincidence is that the people that bring my old convictions up are people that unhappy and have problems all their own. The people that have said something were lonely single mothers, woman beaters, drug addicts, psychos, and just generally unhappy people in general. Which lets you know what that list really is about. I have never had a happy or content person harass me over that. In fact I have had people that were good morally stick up for me. Didn’t matter if they knew exactly what I did. They judged me for my character and not by what they saw on the internet. Aren’t too many good people like that anymore.

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      Brian

      Joe L
      Yes it does appear that these people are mostly unhappy and have nothing better to do, the one guy who beets his wife doesn’t work, his wife has to go out and work and pay all the bills, he probably doesn’t work because he has a background due to beating his wife, and he has gone to numerous neighbors to tell them about me, the other guy down the street that was informed about me stood at the end of the street I live on and leered at me, I was doing yard work, every time I looked up I saw him staring, he never took his eyes off of me, so I stopped what I was doing and I stared back and he went into his house, I wasn’t doing it to be intimidating or start trouble, I was doing it to let him know I’m not going to be harassed or bullied, needless to say he waves at me whenever I drive by now and I wave back. The other guy I guess he feels superior or something because he beets his wife, one would think he would be sitting in a jail cell because he is a consistent re offender, the police are there a couple times a month and don’t charge him even though we all know that the police can choose to charge him on their own with her not even having to press charges, now if that were you or I we would be siting in jail without reasonable bail or bail at that, they would use their power to press charges on an SO. hopefully this shts will be over soon.

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      Joseph

      Yep. Sick of the bullshit. My career went to shit because of this. Now, instead if being a diesel mechanic, I drive a Sprinter. I’m from Texas. I live there. But I’m typing this in Ohio. Just finished a delivery. Another. 5000 miles in 10 work days. Not bad. I should be turning wrenches, but I’m a victim of hate. I did my time. Been out 4 years and haven’t lived a normal life since. I’ll give one Marine Patrol officer creds. He’s in Mississippi. He pulled me over last week. He was very nice and didn’t automatically write me a ticket. First time in my life I ever got a verbal warning. Thanks Officer. Thanks, whoever you are for understanding I did my time. I did my time. Yeah. Each of you registrants did yours too. So the shit you people out there give me is unacceptable. Uncalled for and un-American. Find you some business. Leave me the fuck alone. I’m sick of it.

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      Saddles

      It appears that this vigilantism thing is not going to stop, I’m sure some of you all have heen hit hard by it in one way or another. When I see my PO or he comes to the house for monthly visits we have words sometimes. Its as if he wants to be right all the time. Such as we have all your recording on record. Sure all of us can be right or wrong, but facts are fact.
      Now nobody likes to be duped in these little internet sting scenario’s and I’m sure none of intended for all this to go that far. Playing some harlot game is a bit downing others with this money pit ordeal, but listen the bible does say try the spirits, so is this a constitutional right or a God given right. Sure all of us are upset about all this sex offender ordeal but we all do have a right to redress of greviance don’t we.

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      Brian

      @Saddles
      What’s nice about my employer is they did a background check on me so the owners know because they’re the ones who did the background checks, of course they drug me to the office and made sure I wasn’t going to hurt anyone and wanted to know more about my crime which I was very open about, now some other people have caught wind of it most likely from some vigilante phone calls I’m sure, I know they didn’t tell the rest of the employees about me, all I know is that a person who used to speak to me seems like they’re very afraid of me now, I don’t even know how to address the problem or if I should even attempt to address it, I know a couple people I work with have friends or family in law enforcemend, the one person has been particularly nasty with me, not the one who is afraid of me but a different one, but this could all be in my head to, I sometimes over analyze things. I just have to watch my surroundings to make sure I am safe, I don’t want to have to defend myself but I will if I have to.

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      Saddles

      Brian I’m glad you are working and I hope others can overcome all this vigilantism stigma that this sex registry causes one. Sure law enforcement are not going to back down but standing up is always good. I know we can’t put a Band-Aid on all this ordeal but speaking up in these encounters can make a difference in a lot of ways. I would even suggest that those in enforcement post warnings. Image a cop pretending to be a teenager to offer or entice an opportunity…. would one call that the American way.

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      Brian

      @Saddles
      I spoke up to the guy a couple weeks ago and normally when I know he’s targeting me I ask if there’s a problem and he normally cowers and goes about his work, I know I may be complaining a bit but I am very grateful to be working, I have lost a few jobs due to someone calling up my employer or coworkers that feel threatened that they may loose their job because I’m a much harder worker , so they start snooping and trying to find dirt on other people then they find my background through google or whatever means they use. I was thinking if they could set up sting operations for vigilantes, like they could set up a fake employer address and stuff on an SO’s profile but get a judge to sign off on it so they can’t turn the table on the SO, then snag these sons a bitches up and arrest their asses this time, they say it’s illegal to harass us but don’t enforce it, that’s a crafty way to fix that problem but I don’t see them doing that. Or having leo’s Hide out in an SO’s house waiting for vigilantes to vandalize their home and nail them. Just a thought.

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      Saddles

      Vigilantism…. Seems we have Popyee and Bruto trying to eat wimpee’s hamburger. Seems all you all are fightening and getting upset over this registry thing. Whether you all believe the bible is a fairytail or something out of the grim reaper time’s magazine. You need to take a look at yourself. Seems like everybody has his or her point on here. Me well I can’t spell and seem like I know nothing.
      Well I do know judge not or your’ll be judged. Now I can’t judge any of you all. I can’t even judge myself sometimes. We are all sinners ok if that makes sense. Sure the bible says vengence is mine. These sex registry things are viglient yes. Sure I dont’ want to see anyone duped by this man made stuff or hurting a child or teen. Now if any of you all can explain why I ask for no sex than answer. Can any of you explain why my PO told me I wish you wouldn’t bring your bible in here or why he told me for the next 10 I’m the man. Its all about morals not who wants to have more power on the block in your neighborhood. Nothing wrong with a little gospel. Thank you very much Maestro. and I haven’t even read the whole bible cover to cover yet. I wonder if the thief on the cross read the bible. Theirs meaning in that also.

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      Perry

      Two things are evident: One; The Registry can, has, does, and will continue to, give Vigilantes reason to come out and come after Us to Harm and or Kill Us. Two; Congress and every State Legislative Body knows these facts, and don’t care because Not-So-Secretly, THEY WANT VIGILANTES TO KILL US! That’s why they write The Draconian Notification Laws they have written. They KNOW Registries don’t work as fully intended to, but they don’t care. Here’s something else to consider as well: There’s a lot of Law Enforcement people out there that would like to see Vigilantes Kill Us Off any damn way, then they don’t have to Investigate, Arrest, Do Paperwork, and Jail Us. How about this: Real Criminal Justice Reform ISN’T going to truly happen For Everyone-INCLUDING US-until EVERY Legislative Body Federal and State, also includes Eradication of The Registry Completely. Oh and by the way; The Registry HAS caused Vigilantes to also claim the Lives of people who are NOT on it at all. Do you think they care? Of course not! So instead of Us Fighting with each other, we’ve got to literally Stick Together People. Because the Bottom Line is this: There’s People out there WHO HAVE, AND WILL come after Us because they have Too Much Information on Us and Our Lives…ESPECIALLY those of Us who already have done our time-again like me-who simply want to be left alone to try and live in peace and NEVER REOFFEND AGAIN!
      Done!

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