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March 5, 2019 at 7:27 am #52928
Robin Vander WallAdmin
By Robin . . . In February 2019, renowned author and social activist Judith Levine gave a presentation entitled “The Feminist & The Sex Offender”
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March 6, 2019 at 5:23 pm #52940
I hope you will always hold true to your to your vision statement. I don’t support any type of a registry for anyone. A registry will eventually take away everyone’s liberty.
March 6, 2019 at 8:25 pm #52946
How about doing something about these ridiculous lifetimw gps tether for people who werent even accused of having intercourse. Thats what i got… And no one will gelp me cause im just another low life sex offender.
March 7, 2019 at 7:28 am #52969
David – there is encouraging movement on lifetime GPS. I think GA just had their statue ruled unconstitutional. I’m not sure where you are, but if you happen to be in MI our family just fought against a lifetime tether and won in court. There are victories and people willing to help.
March 7, 2019 at 10:25 pm #53042
David G. The first help for you is stop calling yourself a low life.
March 7, 2019 at 3:24 am #52955
More and more (especially very recently) I read articles that point to legislators trying to remove certain people from the registry. These attempts are aimed mainly, as I read it, towards Romeo/Juliet’s and peeing-on-the-side-of-the-road offenses. Many registered citizens applaud these small concessions as perhaps chipping away at the iceberg.
In my opinion, the people in the know are starting to realize that our ranks of registered citizens are growing at a healthy clip. They are afraid of we registered ones gaining political clout by 1) our sheer numbers 2) our combining monetary resources, and 3) the sheer ridiculousness(!) of the SO laws.
They are trying to DIVIDE AND CONQUER.
Please don’t buy into it! Stand firm TOGETHER IN UNITY! The Florida Action Committee Motto is so true: “With UNITY comes change!”
ALL REGISTRIES REEK OF FASCISM, NAZISM, VIGILANTISM!!!
All registries violate basic human rights!
Stand firm. BE ANGRY (but focused and credible)!
March 7, 2019 at 3:24 am #52956
Registry in this case refers to gov using databases to both inform the public in general of what they or LEO could already find elsewhere. Redundancy is inefficiency. The upholding of public broadcasts on the World Wide Web has been approved by the unelected sworn to uphold ratified manifest evil under Art1 sec 10, both in the plain indentured servitude experienced by maintaining the people’s database property AND the use of language forbidden to congresses ALL 51,. It none the less, a plain machine it is.
Both parties embraced “Was in prison for……a sex crime…” so neither abide by ratified struck as foundational. It is proof enough such electronic agendas need proper tending necessarily; as man is more necessary than any people’s need for data, especially distorted data. Who is it exactly ” all for” the enslavement of man to state’s machine database and maintenance.
Data is a commodity, free data will be an issue as data need necessarily overcomes the right to remain silent. All registrants are now forbidden to remain silent, save FTR. Registration forms are nothing less than agents in a mail box waiting to enter your domicile. I’ve refused, going on three months, indictment inevitable on FTR. Look forward to picking a jury hopefully this year. Advocacy is one thing, FTR another , but each method informs the people. What manner of free men would throw off their god given rights to
Speech AND not to speak.
March 7, 2019 at 3:25 am #52966
I admire the effort and I agree..Sentencing is the point in time where a judge has the responsibility to weigh in the severity of the crime, the potential rehabilitative nature of the offender, the victim, and societal impacts of the crime. At that time the judge is responsible to apply a sentence that is tailored to the perpetrator and the crime committed with an eye to public safety and future rehabilitation, NOT to revenge nor public onion or assisting the next election cycle. If the offender is “the worst of the worst” that needs to be taken into account at time of sentencing and be incorporated into the original sentence. With that being said there is and never will be and never was a justifiable excuse for a registry.
Unfortunately reality is still stained: It is a scarlet letter of revenge that serves no other purpose then the public shackling, stocks and branding did in the past..Shaming. ..ANS even the most ignorant understand this truth..So if everyone knows the truth yet registry’s are still popular then it tells you also anouther truth!..People love humiliating and torturing others for the sake of humiliating and torturing others..If the law said it was a register-able offense to like or wear the color blue and those people were inferior then I can promise society would be just as eager to brand anyone in blue..
March 7, 2019 at 10:58 am #52980
“People love humiliating and torturing others for the sake of humiliating and torturing others.”
That is a very wise and true statement!
March 7, 2019 at 7:25 am #52968
As a NARSOL board member for quite a few years now, I have so much respect for Paul and his work in many civil rights areas and his vision that we all share of a world without shaming, life-destroying registries. Every day I become more convinced that the sexual offense registry is a horrible blight on society and a sin against mankind and the essential value of forgiveness.
I must, though, address the concept of “chipping away,” as it has been called. We will chip away. We will fight for and celebrate every ruling that relieves any from the registry. We will rejoice over a retroactive Romeo and Juliet law that frees hundreds or thousands of individuals from past and future registration. We will celebrate decisions that find certain applications of SORNA to be punishment and therefore not applicable retroactively. We will not refuse such laws and say, “Oh no, that doesn’t get everyone so we don’t want it.”
The registry did not become the monster that it is in one fell swoop, and it will not be dismantled, barring a miracle from God or the Supreme Court, in one fell swoop. Anything and everything that makes life a little bit better for those forced to register or that removes any segment of those required to register from that burden will be celebrated. We will never be through until it is all totally gone, and we will never take our eyes off of the ultimate prize, but we will rejoice over every step toward that victory.
March 7, 2019 at 8:44 pm #53036
The problem with “chipping away” at this nonsense is that we chip away one restriction/law/etc and they add 10 new ones.
March 7, 2019 at 8:15 am #52974
I lost my employability due to being un insurable due to being on the registry for a misdemeanor I am nearing retirement and have lost my ability to care for my family this has to stop.
March 7, 2019 at 8:15 am #52972
Excellent, well written piece, Robin. Thanks for all you do at NCRSOL and at NARSOL. And thank you Paul for getting the ball rolling in 1999! See you guys in Houston.
March 7, 2019 at 3:34 pm #53013
Robin Vander WallAdmin
Thank you, Mike! Looking forward to seeing you in Houston.
March 7, 2019 at 8:15 am #52973
While I hope for a landmark victory that would find the entire registry scheme unconstitutional, I’m appreciative for even the small victories that chip away at the foundation.
It’s not so unlike many other cases through out US judicial history that took time and incremental victories to finally put an end to unconstitutional laws…from women’s suffrage, to slave and minority rights. In retrospect, we can all look back on those errors and see the clear unconstitutionality of those draconian laws and the attempts to alter them over time in ways to make them “less oppressive and more constitutionally acceptable”. Plessy vs. Ferguson to Brown vs board of education….it was the chipping away at the laws over time, and the slow awakening of the public conscience that finally found oppressive laws to unacceptable and contrary to the Constitution. We are on that same road.
There will be a day when the foundation of the registry crumbles. Ive no doubt. My hope is I will live to see that day.
March 7, 2019 at 10:58 am #52986
I think this is a critical statement to make, and I personally appreciate it, Robin. At Illinois Voices, we are often criticized for advocating for the elimination of all registries. People tell us it’s unrealistic and will make us look like nuts. I have to explain that there is a difference between our underlying philosophy of opposing all registries, and the arguments we use in our public debate. The important thing is that we keep the main goal of eliminating registries in mind no matter what argument we’re make so that, whatever we do, we don’t undermine that overarching goal. Arguing that some people should be on the registry while others should not legitimizes registries, and then the debate shifts from the efficacy and constitutionality of registries to who should or should not be included on them. On the latter argument, everyone loses. No matter how good someone thinks their argument is as to why “they” shouldn’t be on the registry, society will always err on the side of caution, and if they think the registry is effective, lawmakers will push to add more and more people to it. Bottom line is that, as advocates, we all have to maintain the basic premise that ALL registries are ineffective, unconstitutional, and unfairly burdensome. This basic premise needs to inform everything we do, whether or not we state it during public debates.
March 7, 2019 at 2:19 pm #53001
AOC of the democratic party is threatening to put her own people on a list as punishment for cooperation with the other side yet they still act like they do not think it is punishment.
March 8, 2019 at 8:50 pm #53069
Any chipping away at the registration of any offender class can be appreciated. But one of the several reasons may well be that as the offender list grows, it is becoming far more costly and time consuming for LEOs to maintain and monitor it. Which brings the idea of fighting for additional categories of registrants to appear to be a working idea. Why not subject every convicted person guilty of a violent crime or one that leads to harm of others (drug dealers, assault perpetrators, domestic abusers, etc.) Their numbers for recidivism are far higher. Lets require all to be subject to this unconstitutional punishment. The theory behind registering offenders is to protect the community… if so, get serious about it.
Two decades ago during a group counseling session, the counselor was asked why the above wasn’t done. He answered that it would quickly overburden the agencies required to maintain it and the system would collapse. So, lets overburden it… eventually the entire system would land in court… at which point, the recidivism argument becomes a major focus. How can society and the courts rule that perpetrators with a 60+% recidivism rate escape a registry. but ones with >5% chance be subjected to it.
Or maybe we should have a registry for illegal aliens! Millions on a list warning employers, neighbors and the general community of those threatening to impact their American freedoms. Congress just voted on a bill banning all forms of hate and discrimination. How about they apply it to everyone.