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August 3, 2018 at 9:06 am #44308
Used with permission By Joshua Vaughn . . . In January 2015, Franklin Barrick packed his bags and moved out of his home near Chambersburg, Pennsylvani
[See the full post at: PA state police arrests for sex offense registry infractions skyrocket]
August 3, 2018 at 10:06 am #44309
John Victor Ramses
I was accused of sexual assault by my former wife in Australia on 1 July 2010. I was immediately arrested, charged, jailed, with no investigation or further ado. I was alone then in Australia, and through it all I was never granted a lawyer. I faced a terrible, horrific trial all alone and was not allowed to put in my evidence. On August 12, 2010, I was convicted by the Australian jury. I then spent 6 1/2 years in prison for crimes I never committed. Finally released and deported back home to the USA, I learned I would be placed on the sex offender registry in my own country. Now, I’m scared, homeless, can’t work or get a place to live. It’s a terrible thing. I don’t even have opportunity to appeal my case for review of being listed on the registry. Out of fear and desperation, I created a web site in hopes of finding anyone at all who can help me to at least have my name and location concealed before something bad occurs to me. This registry stuff must be reformed!! And anyone who is convicted by a foreign legal system must be able to take his case to court here to determine whether it was fair or not fair. Thank you.
August 4, 2018 at 8:35 am #44317
Truth is we are all in the same boat here, and but only an intelligent few out there trying to help us navigate. But, I’m optimistic things are beginning to change. However, it’s always best to be direct; if you’re expecting/hoping for immediate improvent, well…we just have to breathing and surviving.
The good news is there are a couple of cases out there that present hope for change (10 & 4th circuits). Additionally, you’ve come to the right place… NARSOL has recently filed a case (which has now become 3) here in NC.
Hang in there. It’s tough. But know, you’re not alone. And there’s a great bunch here that’s working 24/7 to change things.
August 6, 2018 at 3:31 pm #44422
What State are you in and what did you used to do before the destruction of your life?
August 16, 2018 at 8:31 am #44961
Here is an employment idea for many out there. Become a personal trainer. You can get certified for under $500. You need a Heartsaver card ( a $75 3 hr course).
You can find work at small gyms that hire contract trainers ( no background checks) or pay a fee for usage of studio. You can also do home , park, outdoor training.
I was a physical therapist, but lost my license due to a misdomeanor C.P. possession. So I got a P.T. cert. and now work with adult clients at their homes. I make $5000 / month. 1/2 of my previous salary, but I am slowly building a client roster. You must be serious, but your self esteem will improve as your clients appreciate you helping them. There are many felons that do this occupation.
I have clients that I hope will be able to help me in the future. One is a past president of the county bar association and another is a member of congress!
Hope this gives you hope of a self supportive future. Nothing will be easy, but I have found that we as a group are incredibly tough.
August 3, 2018 at 2:14 pm #44312
The requirements to comply are myriad and more restrictive; it is as if they want people who are convicted of any sexual offences to fail and fail miserably in life. There is no second chance when those in the registry are made to live in fear constantly. I’d like to know if this sex offender registry and the surrounding draconian laws are being challenged in the court of law any time soon.
August 4, 2018 at 8:35 am #44318
Based on my experience in the past 16 years, yes…they do want you to fail. The rules are set up for you to fail. It’s been hard…But, they haven’t yet succeeded.
We want nothing more than anyone else that has been convicted of a crime. We hope for a second chance; the same given to others who made a mistake.
There are several big cases out there right now that could have a huge impact in turning the tide. NARSOL is involved in all of them. Hang in there.
August 4, 2018 at 9:46 am #44330
I am on the registry in PA, this honestly makes me sick. This poor guy not only has to deal with a divorce, but now he’s going to be another news story to populate the lefts agenda by saying he’s reoffended. He hasn’t of course and I hope no one takes this the wrong way. I am a truck driver in pa and was denied access to a military installment due to being a sex offender. No one else has problems getting in and I was treated like dirt by the federal police for delivering plastic bags. Such hate in the world.
August 5, 2018 at 10:12 am #44353
Yes, Mein Fuhrer! Wake up people on here and in America. Are we getting to this stage in America today. Sure everybody wants to be politically right, or should we all bow down to those that make up their own rules. Their’s that “We” I wonder were that came from some overly zealous people wanting to form their own United States or some dictator wanting to control populus or some pompous person that overshadow’s things a bit.
I believe Obama talked about overly zealous discipline tatics. Are the sex offenders in a class by themself today or is their a lack of true principles that say, sure we can set up those, the prostitute if its all in the good nature of public safety than again sure they can carry guns if its all in the form of public safety. Should two wrongs make a right? So who’s bowing down to who these days of taking advantage of others today in certain situations.
August 5, 2018 at 12:22 pm #44372
It’s interesting you mention “Mein Fuhrer”.
Several days back, I was reading about the restrictions placed on Jews just prior to WW2. From residency restrictions (ie. Barred from public parks, theatres, restaurants, where they could reside, etc.), to public identification; all Jews 6 years old and older required to wear the yellow Star of David with the word “Jew” wrote on it. Imagine if the Internet existed in pre-WW2 Germany….
Ironically, prior to WW2, many American’s attitude and sentiments toward the Jew were not so distinct different from the Nazis. In fact, in 1920 an automobile businessman by the name of Henry Ford bought a newspaper company named “The Dearborn Independant”, and immediately began printing over 90 anti-semitic related articles with the first headline being “The International Jew: The world’s foremost problem”. In fact, Mr. Ford was awarded the Golden Eagle awared by an admirer of his work; none other than one Adolph Hitler. It would take the retrospective tragic aftermath of WW2, for much of the world to realize what their own indifference had directly contributed.
Now, that’s not to say that I compare our plight to the Jew in the exact same way. However, it is quite coincidental the comparisons that can be made of the registry and the present indifference the majority of the public expresses regarding it. This time only….they say it’s different.
August 5, 2018 at 12:22 pm #44371
Understanding that the rate of recidivism of registered offenders (re-committing a sex offense) is lowest only to murder, it would be interesting to know how many registered offenders have been charged with violations involving the registry only. I suspect it’s high.
SCOTUS, in 2003, said the registry is not punitive but rather a form of civil regulation by the government with the “Intent” to protect the public. Setting aside the obvious rights violations for a moment, that any reasonable person interpretating the constitution would find ridiculous….how do any of these “Protect the public”?:
1) Charging registrants with “Civil penalties” for any of the myriad of ways one might violate a FTR statute; which often results in jail and/or prison time. Those high costs are passed to the public.
2) The time and money associated with our police departments to monitor a group of nearly 1 million citizens -that are very likely not to reoffend- for a plethra of non-violent, non-Sex offensive “Civil infractions”. And, of course the obvious costs and time that police could be solving real crimes.
3) The cost to the public homelessness, unemployable sect of society that ultimately ends in more costs to the public as a result that the registry imposes on 1 million of our nations citizens.
4) Finally, via governments continued enforcement and support of the registry, I would argue it is further putting the public at risk by promoting the false belief to the public that the registry is somehow protecting them, when most studies now show a sex offense is much more likely to be committed by someone close to the victim, and by someone not already on the registry.
I read an interesting statistic the other day. It stated that, acording to MADD, 2 out of 3 people are likely to be involved in a drunken driving crash in there lifetime; a near 70% chance. Seems high to me, but the lowest statistic I found indicated 1 out of 3 people would be (33%) involved in a drunk related crash. Meanwhile, where do I find the DUI convict registry that protects the public again?
Yet, apparently an estimated 3-5% recidivism rate of 1 million registered citizens justifies such a registry and argues its sole purpose is public protection; and in no way should its effects on the 1 million citizens be construed as unfair or punitive.
Constitutional violations aside, the registry is illogical, expensive, and ineffective when it comes to protecting the public. It’s simply an infinite punitive, shaming, non-evidence supported tool.
August 5, 2018 at 9:55 pm #44387
This is the article to the subject that Glen was referring to:
Henry Ford receiving the Grand Cross of the German Eagle from Nazi officials, 1938
August 6, 2018 at 10:35 am #44412
Yes, that’s it. Thank you Manny.
Is said that Henry Ford, a little later, did offer an apology…of some sort. Supposedly, he publicly stated something to the affect of, “I apologize if I offended the Jews”.
My point was just that, much of the world went along with Germany; they seemed to have no problem with the pre-WW2 treatment of the Jewish. We generally don’t learn these kind of things in school. What is the old saying? “History belongs to the victors.”
My other point was, many of the restrictions of the registry applied to us are not so different than those Germany attempted against the Jew. Grant it, the reason for Germany doing so is very different in our case. On the other hand, is it? I mean, yes, it’s true that we committed an offense and punishment is due. But after we were sentenced and paid our debts for our offense is when the registry and its restrictions are applied to us. We are singled out; basicly, banished within our own country.
Of course, it is different due to the fact Germany would put approximately 6 million Jews to death in gas chambers, etc. But…don’t think for a moment there arent some out there in America that would be for exterminating us either. Germany’s reason for the atrocities was basicly an ethnic cleansing. They believed there were inherent traits in the Jew that were “Contaminating” the German people. Yes, in Germany it was based on ethnicity whereas ours here is based on a prior crime; but, the application of the registry, all its restrictions are intended to do the same. Many comparisons can be made in my oppinion. And, “Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it…”
The distinguishing argument often made is, “Well this is different”. Perhaps it is, but the intent is the same. Let’s hope our country soon realizes it.
August 5, 2018 at 9:58 pm #44383
There is no real reason to pretend that the regulatory regime was not intended as retribution to begin with. The proof is in the pudding.
August 6, 2018 at 10:35 am #44413
Agreed. That fact is indisputable in my view as well.
August 6, 2018 at 12:11 am #44394
Sorry about that Colonel Klink. Maybe I should said that to Maestro but you see thats one of the reason’s why I’m sure Brenda Jones didn’t want relgion in this as it is confusing at times. In todays world there is no difference between Jew and Gentile. I had a friend when growing up that was Jewish. Even my Dad knew the Family. Nice bunch of people but everybody has their views. Hey maybe we should go back to the days of Cher….. Gypsies, tramps, & thieves
A lot of this we are going thru is a type of snare and can effect anyone. If you want to call some of this man over man than its a challange or believe it or not an opportunity. So I do have to admire Brenda Jones and her staff. If you really use your mind in todays’ world, those without sin casse the first stone.
I also remember that Sandy and my old friend Maestro got a bit upset at me and they are right and its not always about religion but it is about truth & trust, and getting set up or putting one’s head on the chopping block is not a pretty picture, but than one can say good things come out of bad or the methods one uses to enforce a lot of this and I’m not gonna judge their methods but we all can speak out.
August 6, 2018 at 3:31 pm #44417
This sentence right here from the article….
“And more than 96 percent of defendants charged with a sexual offense in 2016 had no criminal history of sexual violence.”
This statement makes the assumption that the word “offense” means “violence” when it involves sex.
Interesting that this online news media doesn’t allow for comments. Someone needs to start telling it like it is because MY offense was not violent and the prosecutor in my case clearly admitted in the court (and I have the transcript) that “it was a consensual relationship, your honor”. So….where’s the violence?
We are allowing even those with an open minded, non bias journalistic approach to still be bias in that they think (and making the readership think) that a sexual “offense” means “violent”.
The word “offense” just means you offended against the written law.
If I stole a pack of cigarettes from a store and tried to sneak out with them, how is that violent? It’s not. But it’s an offense. Same with consensual sex or sexually chatting via the Internet with a minor. It’s illegal, but it doesn’t equate to the definition of “violence/violent”.
Please educate these people. 🤦🏻♂️
August 7, 2018 at 11:02 am #44483
“And more than 96 percent of defendants charged with a sexual offense in 2016 had no criminal history of sexual violence.”
This statement makes the assumption that the word “offense” means “violence” when it involves sex…”
Great point. And we see that so often in the media.
A particular example I mentioned on a previous post regarding Bill Cosby’s recent case, in my view, illustrates it even further. I’m no defending Cosby’s crimes for which he’s been convicted. He was convicted by a jury, and punishment is in order. I’m not disputing that.
However, a “State assessment board” has recommended to the court he be placed on the registry for life, and further be classified as a “Sexually Violent Predator”. I find his case particular interesting; in that the government has so often stated the registry is not punitive but simply a public protection tool.
So…classifying an 81 year old blind man that can barely walk NOW as “A Sexually Violent Predator” and requiring him to register for life protects the public how? Whether you support Cosby or not, seems we could all agree he’s relatively harmless now, and that this is clearly a punitive measure. What other pupose could it serve?
Truth is I’m no Cosby fan. But, I’m pretty certain his days of being a violent sexual predator have since passed; being labeled one now and requiring he register is clearly only a punitive excessive measure in my view.
Should Cosby receive punishment for his jury conviction? Yes, in my oppinion. But, does any citizen out there really feel “protected” because an 81 year old blind man’s ( who is virtually imobile now) picture is posted on the public web with the caption “Sexually Violent Predator “. At this point. I think the most anyone in the public could easily fend off this “Violent Predator” with a fly swatter…
It will be interesting to see if a judge is willing to apply some logic in Cosby’s case
August 15, 2018 at 5:31 pm #44909
Let’s say for argument’s sake that a judge does invalidate the state’s S.V.P. classification process in Cosby’s case. I still lay an indictment against the judge. Would he have made such a controversial ruling for some Joe Schmoe nobody like the average working poor citizen? Why did it take that process being applied someone rich and famous to get a judge to give the process an honest look and ruling? Are the rights of the rich and famous more important than the rights of the rest of us?
August 8, 2018 at 9:04 am #44499
THE GOLDEN GOOSE IS UNDER SERIOUS ATTACK
QUICK! Run out and and “,prove” it’s necessity and “effectiveness”.
LEO will do anything and everything to keep their share of the tax pie AND claim the moral high ground while doing so. Unionized protection rackets abound everywhere.
In America we’ve got:
He’ll we got cops for everything.
But are we more perfect or getting better off as a whole society? Or are we just more broke and broken?
August 8, 2018 at 10:59 am #44526
True. When big daddy government trickles down the taxpayers money to the states-basicly bribing- them to follow their rules most states throw their sovereignty into the trash can quicker than flies on…
Reminds me of something my buddy is going through with NC DOT. He has a garage in town, and DOT is wanting to tear it down to put in a new road….even though, there’s nothing wrong with the other road just 200 feet up the street. But, spend it or lose it is the primary driving thought.
LE works the same way. The registry requires more officers and time. So, regardless of whether it’s an effective police tool, the incentive for them is frankly to put as many and keep them on the registry as possible. They camoflage it as moral high ground, and throw in some inflamatory (yet false) language about public safety in an effort to keep the police corporation going and growing….
To be honest, I can’t remember the last time I, or anyone else in the public that i know, felt even mildly protected by someone donning a badge.
Yet, the police corporation and its militarization is larger than ever…
August 8, 2018 at 9:04 am #44488
Ok Glen and maestro you guys come down to earth a bit. I am labeled as violent by the courts but my probation officer labels me a low risk. Sure we all have a wirey tongue at times and some get upset.
Now I liked Cosby at first but when these aligations came out they had a more demeaning tone to them. Wile, if everybody was perfect we all would be able to get along with others and not stero type people. Now I have met Donald Trump Jr. personally during my the corse of my business endeavors. I can’t judge his demeanor no can I judge the Presidents but seems everybody does have there opinions about correction.
Sure everybody always should try to do better. Sure we all are scolded by or parents when we all do wrong growing up. Even school disclipline can be a bit uneasy and at times. The sex thing can be a curse if one lets it . Sure were all born into trouble and thats in the bible Maestro and even this country can make celebrity’s seem like they are not even human such as the Cobsy case. We could also look at the USA olympics coach so there is good and bad in everything. Sure people can change but when someone starts labeling them thats a bit judgemental in itself I’m no judge, but facts and proof are the best medicine and if you can’t learn that from some bible teaching than where are the commandments today in America.
Now guys this is not just a sex offense but its a national debate today. I can’t say anything bad about our President and everybody has different views and we all have a sexuality or was the garden of eden some pipe dream. I still think government needs to tone down a bit on a lot of this stuff. I have been in jail in my past and its not a pretty picture.
August 9, 2018 at 12:04 pm #44557
Excellent video from the NY times…
***Link Changed by Moderator****
Shows SCOTUS 2003 decision based on bogus research. Even the sources are now acknowledging in the video that they were wrong. I feel this is an important revelation to mention in future cases, especially when the state attempts to justify draconian laws based on “Frightening and High” recidivism rates. Thanks NYT for exposing…
August 10, 2018 at 7:30 am #44594
Well with all said on this topic. I’m one of those people that is fighting to reform Registry in PA. I have good attorneys which aren’t local but in PA. PA wants to do whatever they want and how they want to keep the system full. Yes. FAILURE is the key objective they want from us to keep the government funded and us locked up. PA and the Society thinks we cant change or have a better productive life. They figure once a sex offender always a sex offender, which is not true. I love challenging the hell out of these laws that the government imposes in PA on sex offenders. We need to all ban together and prove to PA that we can change and we can be better. You will always have those people that says bad stuff about us but turn a cheek and keep moving on and be productive. As of right now in Montgomery County the challenge on Act 10 which is the new Megan’s Law has been found unconstitutional. Though you know that the DA is going to challenge the ruling, but if it settles unconstitutional then Act 10 is dead. After Scotus replied from Muniz Case, PA scrambled to get a new law in affect asap. With those that were convicted before Dec. 20th 2012 we can call a 1 800 number to update info which is not done to date, then we are suppose to register our employment, school, address. Well to date they have removed our other information. So, I’m looking into of suing. Get ahold of Theresa in NARSOL
August 10, 2018 at 8:44 am #44603
I wish you lots of luck in PA, and success with your challenges against those laws. I know many of us are watching to see what PA does and hoping for some reasonable change.
August 15, 2018 at 5:31 pm #44911
The states also are of the opinion that no punishment short of a torturous death is justice for rapists and child molesters. No matter how long an offender serves in prison for his or her sex crime, IT’S SIMPLY NEVER ENOUGH FOR ANYONE!! It is all about punishment.
Let’s apply some common sense here and review facts:
(1) For many “victim advocates” the mantra has been “child molestation and rape is a life sentence for the victims. They never get over the trauma.”
(2) These “victim advocates” have another mantra: “Why should the offender get off with just a few years in prison when their victims have to live with the consequences of being raped or molested for a lifetime? It’s just not right!!!”
(3) The sex offender registry achieves the goal of retribution and vengeance because it ensures that registrants will NEVER have any semblance of a normal, peaceful, fulfilling life. Since so many of us can’t find a job, we’re legally helpless because most lawyers don’t intend to give their time and talents away for free; especially for rapists and child molesters.
(4) The retribution motive is so apparent when multiple RECENT scientific studies have been done on the subject of sex offender recidivism that CONSISTENTLY flat-out refute the “frightening and high” recidivism myth, but the courts keep going back to a 1985 or 1986 pop psychology magazine article by Robert Freeman-Longo that bases a “frightening and high” recidivism rate of 85% on NOTHING. That is deliberate indifference to the facts. Only with sex offenders does the public and our legislators tolerate court proceedings that are KNOWINGLY BASED ON FALSE EVIDENCE.
August 12, 2018 at 2:52 am #44729
I’m with you too on that James Sure we all should of had a little plattform at the raly in Charlottesville. Speaking out against a lot of injustice is good and if one doesn’t they type cast you for the rest of your life.
Sure in 4 yrs. I will be off probation but after 25 yrs. I can petition for pardon in VA. This is effecting everybody all over the states to a greater or lesser degree. I wonder if we still have slavery today or was lincoln right all the time to help stop the civil war.
August 14, 2018 at 5:30 pm #44857
Saddles, in case you r not familiar w/ U.S. history, Lincoln’s Proclamation of Emancipation decision was not about freeing the slaves or civil rights for “colored” people (which I am) or anyone for that matter. It was about keeping the Union of the States and prevent cessation. …and that decision cost him his life and that of many others following it.
R we (the collective or group they made us into) willing to fight to such end for our rights and the rights of others?…silence…crickets…
August 26, 2018 at 8:02 am #45593
Manny you are right and we as those on the sex registry do have the right to sound out about all this as we seem to be the silent majority of the chain that seem to be more hated than a murderer or any other type of criminal. All this is all wrong in so many ways.
August 28, 2018 at 4:06 pm #45699
I was convicted of a sex offense in 2014. I have maintained my innocence from day 1 in regards to the sexual offense i was also convicted of willful injury and DA which i take full responsibility for. I received a nickel and 2 deuces ran concurrently. Cut that nickel in half for good time and take another yr off for time served. When i was transfered to the treatment facility another 2 months had gone by taking my time until discharge to about 8 months. Upon being placed in treatment i asked how long it lasted and was told close to 2yrs. On top of that my sentencing order says i am not to be released until i complete domestic classes. So i was going to be incarcerated yrs beyond my discharge date. Then i was hit with a bombshell either admit to the crime or be kicked out of treatment. So i was kicked out of treatment. Which started the process of them taking away all goodtime. Those 8 months i had left turned into 4yrs. I was released in nov 2017 because of a supreme court ruling. Now I’m under a special sentence. I refused to sign documents where it clearly states u have the right to refuse the services listed herein so i didn’t sign them. My P.O. filed a violation against me. I ended up losing my job and almost my apt. The offense i was convicted of was against an adult 27yrs old. I have 3 kids and can’t see them because i have a condition in my parole that says i can’t be around minors without consent from my P.O. also i must produce a birth certificate for my kids even though i pay child support for all my kids comes right out my check. Now there’s only 2 ways i know of to force child support either u signed the birth certificate or had a DNA test done either way the fact that i pay child support should be enough. On top of that my P.O. gives sole discretion to the mothers of my kids in regards to me seeing my kids. So if they say no i can’t. I believe that’s for family courts to decide. I have researched this problem with invalid parole conditions which i have about 7 of. And when shown case after case where courts have ruled hey u can’t do that i still receive resistance. I get labeled as argumentative and uncooperative when I’m only stating facts and fighting for what’s right my revocation hearing has been going on for close to a yr. That’s unheard of judge says it herself. Upon my lawyers subpoena for my entire file inculding assessments the state refused stating there’s information in there that could possibly harm me mentally smh. The judge granted my lawyers request. Upon review of my file i found false info and out right lies used in assessing my risk level. Which caused me to score high risk. I have been out since nov 2017 been employed the whole time except for a few months when i lost my job because of this bogus violation. I have my own place just finished school and received certification in welding. I’m trying to move forward with my life. The dept of corrections creed is to successfully integrate offenders back into the community. I guess that’s only for certain offenders because those who have to deal with this are ostracized ,banished. I can’t even be around my own family because everyone has kids. How can u possibly form new healthy relationships which is paramount to successful reintegration.
September 11, 2018 at 1:52 pm #46312
I have a question.When are the situations people put themselves in going to be talked about.When I was incarcerated my life stopped.I had a chance to take a good look at my goings on.I decided I was TOTALLY wrong and going down the wrong road.I took necessary steps to change my life.This included to study the word of God and get baptized. I decided I was listening to Satan and decided to try God and his way.To make it short I have been out of prison 19 years without a single problem.Yes I have to register for life as a predator.I put paper in an envelope instead of money and got a rape case. I am married.My wife new me before I went in and stuck with me.She dais she saw more good in me than bad and that God,her,and myself would work and get through this.Guess what,it is working great.My new family is my congregation and they are in full support. We are totally happy.This is what has worked FOR ME. Married people go to bars and things without each other. Extra marital affairs are said to strengthen a marriage. I can go on.This doesn’t mean a woman deserves to be raped.A woman should NEVER be sexually abused.but If people would quit putting themselves in situations where these things happen,trouble would not be there. Sex offender labels do nothing to protect the public.They are just political stones to cover the legal peoples back end.I will end with what I have learned. ” Don’t be afraid of those who can kill the body”.God has something special for all of us if we will just take the time to listen to him.
September 23, 2018 at 11:27 pm #46884
It appears on that everyone here is missing one MAJOR point and even the article did not mention it.
The Muniz decision may be in play here. Since Mr. Barrick offense predates 12-12-2012. He had 10 days to notify PSP, not 48 hrs. I hope he appeals his conviction and there are things going on that may help him and others out.
January 23, 2019 at 8:14 am #51286
Whoever wrote the article did not get all the facts correct.
April 27, 2020 at 6:11 am #71601
Since this article have been wrote the said offender has been removed from MLS. But still is made to go to the theropy sessions now for 12 plus yrs. And is still on probation and living by the law and his wife is his strongest supporter.