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  • #31283 Reply

    SandyAdmin

      By Laurie Lee . . . The US State Department has begun revoking the passports of registered child sex offenders. The change has been made in ord
    [See the full post at: On the registry? Your passport is now invalid]

  • #31290 Reply

    Josh

    I have travel plans in Feb. and not enough time to get a new passport. I would refuse to get one with an “identifier” anyway, but how can I find out if my passport is still valid?
    It just keeps getting worse and worse and I really see no way it’s going to be getting better.

  • #31311 Reply

    Alec

    Do we know this is “registered” offenders? The law and press release says “covered offenders.” What does that mean exactly?

    • #31421 Reply

      R M

      Alec, please see 22 U.S. Code § 212b – Unique passport identifiers for covered sex offenders (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/22/212b) and Section 21503(f) of title 34.

      Under 22 U.S. Code § 212b, the definition of “covered sex offender” is:
      (c)D In this section—
      (1)the term “covered sex offender” means an individual who—
      (A)is a sex offender, as defined in section 21503(f) of title 34; and
      (B)is currently required to register under the sex offender registration program of any jurisdiction;

      Notice the “and” between lines (A) and (B). However, Angel Watch has not given a specific answer to if they will still send notices out for “covered sex offenders”. They say by law, they “may”.

      Under Section 21503(f) of title 34 states: (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/34/21503)
      (f) Definition In this section, the term “sex offender” means—
      (1) a covered sex offender; or
      (2) an individual required to register under the sex offender registration program of any jurisdiction or included in the National Sex Offender Registry, on the basis of an offense against a minor.

      • #31445 Reply

        Alec

        R.M – that’s surprisingly helpful! That little word “and” wow I had not even paid attention to that. Thank you.

  • #31323 Reply

    Maestro

    No mention of people who are OFF the registry but will forever have the felony on their record. What of those?
    I currently have a passport which I never used and it expires in July this year. I’m off the registry in June of this year.
    Any info on those of us no longer on the registry or will no longer be?

  • #31327 Reply

    freedomwriter

    Anyone else notice none of these laws would have saved Megan or Adam Walsh or any of the victims? Never read an article either, of any sex offender law saving a life, stopping a crime, or even solving one.

  • #31328 Reply

    Saddles

    Issues, Issues, Issues, damn the issues or damn the torpeado’s and full steam ahead. This passport issue is like a nightmare to some. The passport issue is like an article that was on here of the new age witch hunt.I look at it as “Oh he’s one of our people from the USA and we are just letting you know he or she is a sex offender. I would say its a Governmental way of being polite to another country at others expense.I wonder if the sex offender has to have a passport to have or use a cell phone these days or is it coming to that. Remember its all for safety
    Seems now a days one just can’t pick up their bags and go,.or a far cry from biblical times or me and bobby megee without big brother looking down at you. Where are the morals or ethics of to all this.

  • #31333 Reply

    Tim Lawver

    If this IML thing is not enough to motivate a mass protest in Washington DC then there is no hope of putting the victimites in there place. I have not yet read where such a protest is being planned by those who would advocate for registrants. I hope to see one soon!

  • #31334 Reply

    Mike

    Has anyone actually received a letter from the Dept of State or had their passport confiscated yet? If so can you share the contents of the letter or your confiscation experience. I was just curious as this article was written Jan 11, but the source of it is from 2 months ago.

  • #31343 Reply

    Lovecraft

    Evidently, a lawsuit against iml was filed in california today.

  • #31350 Reply

    Tod

    Not sure if it’s never worth posting questions on these articles because it seems like no one ever answers them, but I am going to try anyways;

    It says the stamp will be on the inside of the back cover, does that mean on the back page the last page of the passport? Or where all the vital information is when it is scanned at the airport, etc.? This is an important detail, if it’s on the very last page, that is not as critical, but if it’s on the second page, that will be devastating.

    It says not everyone on the registry will be included, but there is no where to find the list of what they considered as a “covered“ child sex offender. There are hundreds of definitions, and when an article like this is posted it would be nice to have a little more details, instead of creating 1 million more questions.

    Someone mentioned that a suit was filed, but it was actually in DC, not California, and it will be a significantly difficult an uphill battle, so another words don’t hold your breath, as most of these have a good intention, but the reality is, there is very little hope, And seems like no one is optimistic, or willing to give us any hope

    • #31365 Reply

      Bobby

      ACSOL filed a lawsuit yesterday January 11th 2018 in California (Central District of the U.S. District Court )

      Here is the complaint in PDF format. The lawsuit made U.S News.

      http://all4consolaws.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Complaint-CONFORMED-11-Jan-2018.pdf

    • #31427 Reply

      R M

      Tod, please see 22 U.S. Code § 212b – Unique passport identifiers for covered sex offenders (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/22/212b) and Section 21503(f) of title 34.

      Under 22 U.S. Code § 212b, the definition of “covered sex offender” is:
      (c)D In this section—
      (1)the term “covered sex offender” means an individual who—
      (A)is a sex offender, as defined in section 21503(f) of title 34; and
      (B)is currently required to register under the sex offender registration program of any jurisdiction;

      Notice the “and” between lines (A) and (B). However, Angel Watch has not given a specific answer to if they will still send notices out for “covered sex offenders”. They say by law, they “may”.

      Under Section 21503(f) of title 34 states: (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/34/21503)
      (f) Definition In this section, the term “sex offender” means—
      (1) a covered sex offender; or
      (2) an individual required to register under the sex offender registration program of any jurisdiction or included in the National Sex Offender Registry, on the basis of an offense against a minor.

  • #31360 Reply

    Cary

    I did hear a true story once upon a time. Someone who is just someone had recently went abroad using a fake passport an exact identical to a normal passport and got in a 3rd world country and came back with no problems. The person was a violent sex offender too. Person had also said it was just easy and no fear of anything. I do not know how true it is but it had happened a week ago and i do not know who that person was. It was a story that had video recordings. I dont even remember who told me the story. I just blew it off like it was just fake. No biggie.

    • #31433 Reply

      R M

      Cary, first you say “I did hear a true story once upon a time” and then you say “I do not know how true it is…” along with “I just blew it off like it was just fake.” Which is it???
      There is no doubt in my mind that a person can get a fake passport or any other type of fake document. I for one do not plan to violate US federal laws or International laws or any foreign country laws and end up in prison forever. Do you?

  • #31373 Reply

    D

    I wounder if all the sex offenders stopped working and paying taxes if the USA would stop attacking them.

  • #31389 Reply

    Svejk

    I have not read *anywhere* where *anyone* has actually received a letter or had their passport revoked – YET. For me, as of now, it remains a inactive threat. The identifier would go in the last page of the passport under Endorsements and Restrictions. I am hoping that the ACSOL lawsuit will stall this whole thing long enough for me to get away to Europe and perhaps ask for asylum. No one has mentioned the 800 pound gorilla in the room; that being that Hitler did the exact same thing to the Jews. I wonder if there is a way all concerned can join the lawsuit. In numbers lies strength and safety.
    -Svejk

    • #31394 Reply

      Maestro

      Be careful even in European countries since they have been mimicking the USA (since we pretty much dictate the rest of the world to anyhow and always have).
      I’ve seen videos on YouTube of sex offended vigilantes in the UK and recently Poland started a registry as well.

  • #31416 Reply

    World Citizen

    Hello… in some states, one must provide a 21 day notice at the registration office for any trip overseas. I would guess that when the registration office notifies Washington DC about the foreign travel, possible that is when a notice will be sent out to the SO traveler that his passport is revoked???
    Since IML, I have yet to read a reference that a person, who notifies his Registration office, has been told by DC that his passport has been revoked?
    Frankly, I haven’t heard anything about the consequence of SO travel… it’s unbelievable that no registrant has NOT travel?

  • #31426 Reply

    R M

    To Sandy and Laurie Lee and Swift Passport Services;

    The title of this post, “On the registry? Your passport is now invalid”, seems quite misleading to me. You refer to articles dated from Nov 2, 2017 (even the source refers to the same article dated Nov 2, 2017.

    Do any of you KNOW of any passports that have been invalidated?

  • #31451 Reply

    TS
  • #31468 Reply

    Rodie

    Does it seem to anyone else like the advocacy groups are only talking and not making any real progress?

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