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June 7, 2018 at 1:28 pm #41649
By Sandy . . . Major league baseball’s draft is over, and Luke Heimlich was not chosen. As USA Today put it, “…no one would touch him.” Luke is, by
[See the full post at: Lessons learned from the Luke Heimlich saga]
June 7, 2018 at 3:34 pm #41654
Andy Hudak III
Thanks for this.
My background includes being sexually abused by an uncle, growing up and getting a masters degree in rehabilitation counseling, and eventually, specializing in working with victims of sexual abuse, as well as other types of abuse and neglect. In 1983, I was asked to start a sex offender program, and eventually was one of the co-founders of the Montana Sex Offender Treatment Association.
I couldn’t agree more with this perspective, and, in fact, wanted to share that since I was molested in the 50s and 60s, when no one talked about it, I didn’t disclose until my early 20s. I will often tell people that because of the very issues you raise, I am ironically grateful that I didn’t have to go through an investigation and a court situation where my mother and/or I would have been told such things – that basically, I was broken for life!
I think of the court situation is a giant psychodrama that because of the intense emotionality of all involved, has a huge amount of power to impact victims, and those that support them.
I agree that, as long as someone is low or moderate risk in terms of their risk to re-offend (and that includes almost all adolescents), they deserve a second chance.
Besides, the fact is that young boys don’t, at age 10 or 11, wake up one day and say; “oh, I know what I want to do… I want to be a child molester so that the murderers and thieves in prison can look down on me, and when let out, I can be a societal leper!”.
Recent research (and all of my 37 years of clinical experience with them) demonstrates that half of those that act out sexually on others have FOUR OR MORE TYPES OF ABUSE AND NEGLECT IN THEIR BACKGROUNDS. We have started calling these ACE’s (Adverse Childhood Experiences)
In my clinical observations regarding why some are fairly devastated, and others just go through a period of having to sort out their thoughts and feelings, and then do great in life, it appears that the family systems beliefs around emotional pain, (general vulnerability), sexuality, and acting out sexually on others plays a key role – as in, it’s not what happens to you, but what happens to you that you can’t process fully with people that don’t overreact or under react that causes acting out toward self or others later on. That, and whether the family has good non-power and control communication and conflict resolution skills… Or, at a minimum, values getting help, so they get them if they don’t have them. This contrasts with many victims that deal with their confusion and negative feelings and beliefs towards themselves as something that they have to figure out on their own… Along with believing that getting help is weakness.
Though our understanding that people who act out on others are often the very victims that we rallied around in the last generation to support, this should never be used as an excuse!
There is such a thing as compassionate accountability, and it has been my joyful experience to see many people deal with their past wounds, and finally emotionally grow up! This includes those who have acted out sexually on others, as well as the people that sometimes enable them, marry them, and sometimes, have their own (control and/or avoidance) issues that they never have learns to deal with secondary to their abuse and neglect.
Thanks again for this important perspective on how we sometimes unintentionally harm victims while thinking we are supporting them!
June 7, 2018 at 9:22 pm #41693
a man without a country
Sandy and Andy, Thanks for outstanding writing! I want to point everyone to my blog post added over at Tales from the Registry “Quotes, Sources, and Thoughts.” In it I talk about some argumentative strategies as well as give some interesting quotations that I think it would be important for all of us to keep in our pockets with the TRUE statistics.
June 7, 2018 at 4:54 pm #41660
“WHY do we persist in telling victims of sexual assault that they are “scarred for life,” that they are “ruined,” that they will never recover? That is the absolutely worst thing that can be said to them.”
Living proof that when it comes to sex all we know amounts mostly to superstition. There is no evidence to back that statement up. No one should allow themselves to be defined or destroyed by a single event in life that didn’t kill them.
June 7, 2018 at 6:30 pm #41677
•These are only a few representative of many: “…his niece is going through…a lifetime of pain.”; “That little girl has to live with the damage he did to her for the rest of her life.”; “She’s scarred for the rest of her life.”•
What damage? What scars? This is the stereotypical crap we have been programmed to say, even when there are issues of consent with age differences. This is retarded. This has to stop.
How did I damage my “victim” any more than someone her own age putting HIS penis inside of her? I would really like a VALID answer to this question. My “victim” consented. My “victim” was no stranger to knowing what to do sexually.
Just because an age difference is made illegal by lawmakers DOES NOT MEAN that the younger person MUST be referred to as a “victim” who is “scarred for life”.
Had I put a knife to her throat and forcefully raped her, that would be a different issue.
And don’t anyone try that “you groomed her” crap with me. Again, I didn’t “groom” anyone to any degree more than a teenage BOY “grooms” a teenage girl when he’s horny.
Men who take a woman on a dinner date are also “grooming”. Holding the door open, pulling out the chair for her to sit, making sure to be EXTREMELY POLITE towards a woman who DOES NOT KNOW HIM….this is also “grooming”. After, and only AFTER a relationship develops and the man continues to be a gentleman, that’s when it’s just simply “polite”. But when we are trying to IMPRESS someone, it’s GROOMING. Don’t kid yourself.
So yeah, I’m still trying to figure out how I “groomed”, “assaulted” and “scarred for life” a post pubescent teenage female who wasted NO TIME stripping her clothes off and jumping on top of me on the bed.
All because she was a 15 not 16, she is somehow a victim of my deviant, evil plan to take over the world and have a harem of under age concubines at my leisure for all to be jealous of . 🤦🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
• with his not being drafted, “Heimlich’s victim won’t have to relive the trauma every time she turns on the TV and sees him play a baseball game.”•
Why don’t we say the same thing about car crash victims? That “god” forbid they see a car commercial on TV, it will give them flashbacks and bring back all those horrible memories.
But somehow a 15 yr old pitcher cannot be seen on TV in a baseball game IN CASE his “scarred for life victim” might be watching. 🤦🏻♂️
Please….make it stop. This madness has got to stop.
June 7, 2018 at 9:37 pm #41698
a man without a country
A comment I added to my own blog (re: above) about LEGAL POSITIVISM…
from Quora: “Legal positivism is a philosophy of law proposing that a law is valid simply by virtue of the fact that it has been approved by a legally constituted authority. In other words, whether some might argue that the law is unfair or unjust based upon moral or ethical arguments is not material to the consideration of its inherent validity. The fact that it has been promulgated by the sovereign authority is sufficient in itself to confirm its validity. According to the positivists then, a repressive law is still a law independent of whether it is “right”, “fair” or “desirable” by the subject people. It is the product of a logical and entirely rational, fact-based process occurring in a moral vacuum.”
“… the product of a logical and entirely rational, fact-based process occurring in a moral vacuum.” Well, yes, I definitely see a moral vacuum, but as for the ‘rational, fact-based process’ PASS ME THE AIRLINE BARF BAG! (I don’t remember, but I think the Quora poster I stole this from was a retired lawyer.
June 7, 2018 at 9:59 pm #41704
June 11, 2018 at 9:46 am #41889
You are so right, Maestro. Right on the money!
The “public” tries to generalize, put all cases into one easy basket for convenience.
The issue is also an easy political one. Mandatory penalties are another easy political move.
Not being a professional psychiatrist, I’d have to say different people react to situations differently; no one can simply claim that another person was “ruined for life.” Almost everyone goes through one or more life-changing situations, sexual or otherwise.
Still, I see no easy end to this continuing BS. There is little incentive for lawmakers to change.
June 7, 2018 at 7:05 pm #41679
Lessons to learn wow Sandy that does sound deep from this type of human outlook. I’m sure human wisdom and scientific wisdom will be the winner of man’s understand about sex and sex crimes. I wonder if the birds and the bee’s can understand second chances? I’m sure in many families there has been brother and sister experinmenting or touching and getting physical at times. Isn’t that human nature. Remember it takes two but abuse comes in all stages
. Even some of the comments on here can be a bit abusive and over rated at times. While they are just opinions of others about all this sex offender registry and the frustration it cause whether physical or other they are real and emotional as well. One has to learn that they are somebody and the mind can sometimes be abused and over abused even in thinking matters.
Sure we all need second chances and even more if thats the case but I have to bride my tongue on that one in this registry matter that is a bit callous. Now sometimes as we all grow up things are a is a bit different in every family. Sure call it chidrens sexual childs play or being a bit permisquise. Now if it gets a bit too out of line than one or the other has to stop their actions, one should just let it go before it gets to out of line. See some minds haven’t developed that much as elementary school, jr. high. or high school level. It is if you want to call t a stage factor. Now Physical rape is being taken advantage of one and that is a bit different but keeping it locked up inside it can be like being raped over and over.
The person on this article that posted about being a being a rehab counsilor and being molested when he was young by an uncle let it go as it will eat you alive as a cankerworm. So were is forgiveness and forgetting. I guess that’s not in human logic today but than again secon chances are logicial. Sure principals are nice and nobody likes to have something hanging over their head and none of us is perfect. Counsling is good if one needs to gets to that stage but remember the flesh is weak, so controling one’s self is good. If one lives with a stigma than that in itself is abusive and one is just hurting themself emotionally again.
June 7, 2018 at 7:50 pm #41683
Rick in PA
I know there are many of us who, perhaps deservedly (Maestro), feel we have been given a raw deal by a society that seems to be obsessed with sex, whether through viewing, participating, or labeling others for it. However, let us not lose sight of Luke Heimlich.
This kid, absent his conviction and the public outing of his adolescent “crime,” would have been a first round selection last year in the Major League baseball draft. He would have signed for millions and, most likely, made many more millions over his career. He is beyond talented. He is a truly phenomenal baseball pitcher. Yet he sits at home, considering not just lesser options, but options that are an insult to his talent, simply because he made a stupid 15-year-old horny boy mistake.
It’s not like baseball shuns all troubled athletes. Be a drunk and you might get suspended for a while, but you get a second chance. Be a skirt-chaser and, unless you force yourself on someone, you simply go on with your life. But, at 15, make a mistake (assuming he did) and have sex with a girl several years younger than you and you can kiss your career and the life you worked so hard to build for yourself good-bye.
My heart aches for Luke and for his parents who are watching their son’s life goal vanish before their eyes.
June 7, 2018 at 9:37 pm #41700
“I know there are many of us who, perhaps deservedly (Maestro), feel we have been given a raw deal by a society that seems to be obsessed with sex, whether through viewing, participating, or labeling others for it. However, let us not lose sight of Luke Heimlich”
Rick in PA,
I wasn’t trying to lose sight of Luke in my previous comment. Luke was the same age as my “victim” and had an older person done something sexual with Luke when he was 15, LUKE would be victim because the LAW would have us believe that he’s too young to know what he’s doing.
But when the 15 yr old does something sexual to another young kid, somehow he’s capable of knowing what he’s doing and gets his life ruined by law enforcement RATHER THAN getting punished by his parents…??!! ARE WE SERIOUS IN THIS DAMN COUNTRY??? 🤦🏻♂️
June 9, 2018 at 12:33 am #41748
You might be speaking too much truth for the US culture to handle. Many in today’s culture not used to thinking for themselves on such topics, it’s all about what the media, the government and any authority tells them, which they will unquestionably repeat. It sounds like you’re one of the very few that’s ‘woken up’ while the majority of others prefer to repeat the words of any ‘high authority’ (God-like figures in their minds) like obedient sheep, instead of using their own brains, those ‘critical thinking skills’ we were supposed to all learn in the US education system, and see that this current system of criminalization is Beyond screwed up.
I’ve recently been asking: “Why is it that when a person under age 18 commits a crime, they are labeled a “Juvenile”, yet when that same someone is Nude in that age range, they are suddenly a “Helpless Child Victim, Every time. No, no exceptions. Ever.” These people are not even Willing to accept the idea that that may not be the truth 100% of the time, and thinking so may result in people’s lives getting ruined from sex offender labels. They’re not willing to look at an issue from more than one narrow angle. It’s Brainwashing at its finest.
Have these people looked into History? Or beyond their own noses? Do they know how much the age of consent has changed just within the last 100 years? Do they know how other countries like France handled such situations in the past with underage sex crimes? (They recognized all human beings as capable of feeling, good and bad, and strongly condemned any kind of ‘force’ used in sex. Logic at its finest.) Clearly, it’s inconvenient to hear the truth that may go against the one-sided garbage that the justice system/prosecutors are perpetuating in western culture.
In your case, that same girl who gladly slept with you would go ahead and do the same with a guy closer to her age and regret it, or get pregnant. So how the hell is that any better for her? How is it OK just because some clueless kid sleeps with her instead? Because they’re both more naive? Because someone over the age of 16 or 18 absolutely MUST be grooming this poor victim, there is no way they could actually respect and like them, right? Isn’t that what they want us to believe without question? “Let’s allow both clueless people to have sex, and see what happens.” Sounds to me like a prequel to an MTV episode of ’16 and Pregnant’. Of course we can’t talk about that though, because they’re all clueless children and can’t make decisions about sex, isn’t that what we’re also told?
Of course this is all utter Bullshit because recently it’s been declared that the human brain is still forming until age 25-26. THUS, the argument that “… anyone under 18 cannot possibly think for themselves” (because a few narrow-minded morons decided so for the rest of us) holds no foundation when the brain doesn’t stop forming until age 25-26. So then the truth, according to the logic previously used to come up with age 18, would be that now EVERYONE under age 26 is a Child that cannot ever consent to anything, or possibly understand what feels good for them or bad.
Regarding Luke and the comments which those commentators made about the poor girl etc. This does nothing except perpetuate the Victimhood mentality that’s been taking over this country, specifically this country. To have the damn nerve to put the idea into someone’s head that they are scarred for life is a Travisty, if not borderline a Criminal Act. Publicizing this is what ruins lives, not even the act itself at times. These groups are Grooming people into thinking they have gone through the worst experience in life, making them feel helpless and horrible, despite many of the victims not always seeing it that way. NO, the worst experience is VIOLENCE. It’s losing a Loved One. Anything sexual (without the threat of bodily harm) is nothing compared to those two experiences. And if these misguided people want to automatically equate ‘Sex=Violence’ then they should all move to an island and perpetuate that Fairytale amongst themselves. Maybe they’ll go extinct.
The people who are pushing for embracing Victimhood must be blind to not be able to see that there is something other than, “You’re a victim for life, embrace it, seek venegence indefinitely, seek compensation from anyone and everyone of any proximity involved for as long as possible”.. I mean these people promoting these ideas need to get mental help, as seeing the world from So Extremely far left isn’t going to make the world a better place for anyone. All it does it damage further lives and families.
People of unfortunate events that want help should seek it and be encouraged to get it. However, people that don’t believe what they went though was ‘horrific’, should not have that instilled into their brain, like these out of control Victimhood groups are doing. I guess they won’t stop until they’ve sucked the last bit of Blood out of any poor sap that may have made a mistake, paid for it, and learned to do better next time. It’s vicious, inhumane and disgusting what these groups perpetuate.
I’ve talked to many people throughout my life of all ages. From hearing their life stories, it is clear that sexual experiences under age 18 are by far not the worst influence on their life, unless it was forced sex. Forced sex at ANY age is wrong. Shitty parenting, being physically or verbally abused has harmed more people for LIFE than their sexual experience under age 18.
June 9, 2018 at 9:40 pm #41827
a man without a country
VICTIMHOOD… Again, I’d like to point everyone to my tale in Tales: “Quotes, Sources, and Thoughts.”
“Manufacturing Victims: What the Psychology Industry is Doing to People” a book by Dr. Tana Dineen in 1998. Heavy reading, but SCADS of very interesting (thank you Arte) quotations that have full source information. I will go to my tale in the blog soon and add a list of page numbers to find these quotes.
June 8, 2018 at 8:05 am #41714
Rick, in strict adherence to the facts, Luke did not “have sex” with a girl a few years younger than himself. If he is guilty of he crime to which he pled, he molested a 6 year old child. He received what appears to be appropriate punishment and fulfilled the obligations of it. He did what we expect of kids who mess up; he straightened up and stayed on the straight and narrow. But as is so common when the messing up involves a sexual offense, staying on the straight and narrow is not sufficient. And thus our advocacy.
June 8, 2018 at 3:09 pm #41743
My argument is that if a 15 yr old is incapable (by the ideas of the lawmakers) of consent with a person more than 2 or 3 yrs older because the 15 yr old is still a “child” and not emotionally or mentally developed enough for the natural act of sex, then how can they hold the same emotionally and mentally undeveloped 15 yr old to the same legal standards as a grown man or woman who does the same illegal act?
Instead of prison or probation and the labeling of “sex offender/threat to public safety” for what he did when he was apparently “too young to know”, why not just counseling?
Why are the lawmakers as well as the public acting as if kids don’t get sexually curious with other kids? Even if the younger child is 6 yrs old to the person who is the ‘actor’ at age 12, 13, 14 or 15. Obviously there is not only a CURIOSITY issue there, but there may also be a MENTAL issue there that can possibly be rectified with therapy, not law enforcement. All the articles of teens and kids doing such sexual behavior are written in a way as if to say that the kid in the article is the ONLY KID EVER to do such things. No! This seems to be something that’s going on more and more. And possibly went on in past decades as well.
What is the point of studies if the end result is “Lock ’em up and label them monsters!”..?
See, we’re quick to punish the 15 yr old INSTEAD OF, taking the opportunity with the offender at such a young age to delve into their minds and find out what compelled them to do what they did.
No one seems to give a shit to dig a little. Just convict and call it a day. THIS is un-productive.
June 7, 2018 at 7:52 pm #41685
Sandy, as I read various articles you have written, I have come to the conclusion that you are a very talented writer. It appears to me that your writing style is worded in such a way as to make people think. And it appears to me that you do a great job of expressing you points. God gave you a wonderful talent and it is nice to see that you are using it in an attempt to make the world a better place. NARSOL is very lucky to have your assistance.
June 8, 2018 at 8:09 am #41715
Wow; what a lovely compliment. Thank you so very much. I am fortunate in that I have found a venue in which I can do that which I love doing — writing — and that I have found a venue in which I can work for social justice and second chances and human dignity.
June 9, 2018 at 12:33 am #41749
Agreed! Sandy you’ve done a phenomenal job at articulating your points on the several articles I’ve read written by you. Even when those articles are in response to something infuriating, you’ve been able to get your point across with just the right combination of logic and emotion in your writing.
June 9, 2018 at 7:24 am #41762
June 7, 2018 at 8:50 pm #41691
The United States government, owned by main stream media will not change unless both are replaced..it deliberately stirs false information and hate as a tool to protect itself. Neither represent America any longer.. When any government enacts policys or laws that place any of its citizens at risk of international vigilanteism and terrorism said government is saying it no longer represents its people by its actions.Anytime a government using propaganda msm outlets or militarized police forces to deliberately stir discontent and create inferior level citizenry akin to slave citizens same thing. Our founding fathers understood this very well and even warned against it and even insured with the amendment the follows the First Amendment.. You have no “victorys” what you have called “victory ” in courts is merely different levels of defeat.. Think about it.. Your government now reachs clear across the planet to harrass, intimidate, and mark you for assault… That is not a victory.
June 7, 2018 at 9:37 pm #41699
America: Baseball, apple pie and sexual hysteria. Luke Heimlich must be a strong minded dude to perform so well knowing every person in the stadium is judging him. I wish i had that strength and courage. Must be plenty of other people besides myself who admire him for how he has comported himself through everything. I’m hopeful Luke will have a happy and productive life!
June 7, 2018 at 10:35 pm #41706
Clearly this man is not a serial criminal. No one in the media will point that out though.
I cannot remember anything from age 6, much less 4.
The difference between a victim and accused is the accused cannot prove they did not do something. The victim also has a chance to be whatever they want. This applies to the victims of any crime, and non criminal trauma. They can play the victim for a year, a decade, or life. OR they can overcome the trauma to become Oprah, Tyler Perry, Maya Angelou, a major league baseball player or anything they want to be. The accused never can.
June 8, 2018 at 8:12 am #41709
We all know that the “victim card” is only flashed when trying to bully people into taking a certain course of action. Victims have a legitimate place in a court of law. After that, the term has little use left if a person wants to live a productive life. But we aren’t allowed to say that, are we?
June 8, 2018 at 8:12 am #41711
I agree wholeheartedly that most victims can successfully overcome traumatic experiences. Extensive therapy may be necessary for some victims, but not necessarily for others. The very old-fashioned method of “putting a bad memory away and let it fade” can be an effective approach as well. That is how my parents handled the aftermath of my abduction many, many years ago. I am glad they did.
June 8, 2018 at 8:18 am #41722
Yes, that is the way that everyone handled these things years ago. There were no options. It wasn’t talked about. That is the way a woman to whom I was very close handled years of molestation by an older male relative starting when she was around six. She grew up, she was strong in her religious faith, she forgave him for her sake, not his, and she married, had children, and lived a normal, happy life.
June 8, 2018 at 9:35 am #41723
I have met personally two rape victims who were traumatized by the event and sought counseling and recovery. They chose to move forward in their lives and refuse to believe you can’t continue to live. The perspectives of others maybe different but change comes over time.
June 8, 2018 at 10:50 am #41728
totally against public registry
Thank you, Sandy for putting the truth out! I have always said the same thing, which is both sides of the equation have to heal and move forward with life. Everyone can heal! Everyone can move past their hurt! Life moves on and it’s a crime to encourage victims to stay in the past. This young man has moved on and I am sure his niece has also. That’s what therapy is for, isn’t it?
We survived and thrived! I am a woman and almost all women have had some sort of experience with sexual abuse or related issue, but you move forward….and lots of women did that without therapy.
Victims can not stay victims for ever! I’m sorry but that idea is garbage psychology
June 8, 2018 at 1:28 pm #41739
Reading this, I am reminded of a sentence from a book I am reading (Beartown by Fredrik Backman)
“One of the plainest truths about both towns and individuals is that they usually don’t turn into what we tell them to be, but what they are told they are.”
I think there is much truth in that sentiment.
June 8, 2018 at 1:28 pm #41738
I don’t know this young man’s story. But everyone deserves to be given another chance. Confession is good for your soul. Don’t ever deny your part in any offense. Humble yourself and realize that there are always consequences for your actions. You may lose your station in this Life, but better to lose it here, than there. Your path is changed by bad decisions, but it does not mean there isn’t a place for you to gain benefit for yourself and others. We are not meant to be tied to our sin once we confess and repent and turn away from it, then God forgives us. The laws were supposed to “forgive” us, but they have not for a long time. Because a person’s criminal history is available to everyone nowadays, you can be rejected by anyone. It is only when someone looks at you for who you are now, that you are forgiven by them.
Corporations and our Government have decided that there is big money to be made from criminality. If you brand someone a criminal, then many employers use your criminality to pay a lower wage and some may treat you with disdain.
As for “victims”….If you keep someone a “victim” you are treating them the same way you treat criminals. They are not helped to heal and become productive in their own lives. Some “victims” are shamed and persecuted the same as the offender.
Can you see the similarities between treatment of “victim” and “offender”?
EVERYONE needs to learn to FORGIVE so that we can move on and become a productive, functioning society.
Everyone needs help at some point in their lives. It is how those around them treat them, that can determine a possible good outcome.
Do not be a “victim” of your environment.
June 8, 2018 at 1:28 pm #41737
Why is it always a athlete that people use to show importance or talent. How about a man that could can present society with ultra efficient solar energy technology. How many people out there would be helping society if society was not being a bully, overreacting, or wrongfully punishing them? There could be people who are deliberately holding back gifts to the human race so that they may give these gifts at a much later time with the message of “You could have had these things sooner but you did not deserve them because of your actions against me”. Society can be punished by one man or woman in this way and it is bond to be noticed.
June 8, 2018 at 10:15 pm #41746
It is very sad for Luke to have to carry this terrible burden for something that happen when he was a child. He is a victim of the way we are as a society now. The laws need to change. Maestro you are so down to earth. What you have to say is so spot on. In a lot of the cases it is only one sided. We never here what happened because the older person is forced, no given the opportunity to take a plea agreement. This is so that he does not have to spend 80 years in Prison because that is what he is told will happen. That was got my 18 year old grandson to sign. Most of the time there is no victim, but the law turns out two. Life long punishment for the older sexually active person does nothing but takes away a person being able to succeed. There are way too many bad laws out there and this is ruining our economy. I think back when I was a kid and all the stuff I did. You know we played doctor and nurse. We had the dog that wanted to hump everyone’s leg. We laughed at its —-! I don’t know all the facts about Luke, what I do know is that he was a child. He made a bad choice, that all of us have done. This lifelong sentence has to go!
June 9, 2018 at 4:04 pm #41790
I hope this talented young man plays in another country’s league, rises to world fame and stardom, making $$$ and winning championships all based on his arm . . .Just to make America look stupid, ridiculous and the laughing stock of the world again.
June 9, 2018 at 11:35 pm #41843
Should we say Bye Bye Ms. American Pie or should we all say To much time on my hands or should we all figure out all the answers to thinking and this human saga of this sex ordeal. Lets get real for a minute. I am no judge, jury, or prosecutor and I don’t judge but I don’t corrupt minds either. This Heimich saga is a little fishy as who know’s the complete story. Without commenting about Maestro and his argumentitive opinion’s to Sandy and his Einstien’s theory to this sex game of chance. we come to Wearethe people, I’m saying to myself does anybody have common sense anymore. Should everybody be right and nobody wrong or does principal stand out more. American society is being over rated on a lot of understanding in life or are we all saints. I wonder what a hunter does. I think they hunt. I just wonder what a sinner does, maybe they over think to make ther wrong a right. I’m sure we all need second chances or is society like the song I mentioned.
Their are eight million story’s in the Naked City this is one of them but did all this sex offender or sex registry stuff have to happen? No it didn’t. Sure we can all corrupt morals or is morality gone the way of Ms. American Pie, with other people in a physical type of enslavment and inducing punitative long term punishment, bias dictatorrship, or even discrimination to be to give a second chance I don’t know if there are violators or manic depressive people on here at times. Sometimes its just common ordinary “We the people” wanting to get down to the truth but in the long run its all about principal and I can guarantee you its not man’s principal because man has screwed up every thing in life with their lack of understanding. Are laws a bit overbearing or do we still have power to the people is used in the right way.
First off can anyone explain what is a sin and what is evil or should we all go back and enlighten ourself with the movie 50 shades of gray. That right should be the start to solving all this out. Sure we can all corrupt things. The common expression is “isn’t hindsight better than foresight” should go a long way. I have had my morals corrupted a few times or should we the people corrupt morals ourself or does government corrupt in many ways and yet they seem to be wise, and yes power corrupts. I could think of a few leaders corrupting morals such as ” I am not a crook” and also the list is endless. I just wonder if biblical safety is better than down to earth safety and morality today in this country. Corrupting in a physical way is never good and I am surely no judge and that dept is above all of us. So we seek truth.
June 11, 2018 at 9:46 am #41887
Sin is something that you do that you know is wrong. The problem is not everyone looks at the same things as sins. Sex being the main issue. Teenagers having sex is a sin in some peoples eyes, and not in others. When I was a teenager I did not wait to have sex until I was married like my mother wished, and told me that I should do because I would be a sinner. Instead I had the shotgun wedding and had to get my parents signature to marry my boyfriend who was 5 years older then me. At that time I was the one who was more mature and I still am. Yes I was a child having a child, but I had been around the block more then once. Evil is another thing that people see differently as well. Some think of snakes as evil. I think of them as something that helps keep the mice and rats under control. The other thing that can be taken wrong is corruption. It is not always that someone younger is being taken advantage of. I was a willing partner and teenagers having sex was common.