Knowing sexual offense facts important; paying attention to them critical

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    Sandy Rozek
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    Also published in Criminal Legal News, online May 15 and June, 2019, p. 23 By Sandy . . . The Arkansas legislature has just passed a law imposing vari
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    wrongfully registered person

    Hello Sandy,

    Good article! We have to keep pounding them on the facts. I guess this is their new answer to the facts is to try to make new false facts by saying restrictions are working. If there is a drop in sex crimes this is hard to prove ether way. This is a new concern and shows they are willing to be dishonest and lie.

    “Operation Karma,” Karma works in both directions.

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    Mike

    Very good write up i cant believe they can pass a law or an ordinance with out proof or evidence that the law is needed especially when claim it’s an emergency, i personally have never heard of any child anywhere being harmed or abducted on Halloween, I’m curious isn’t there a way to get such laws taken down by a certain amount of signatures or by making them show proof as in evidence that such a law is needed just like when they declare an emergency in need of funds when there’s a disaster, how are they able to pass a law without evidence or proof for such a need for a law, i would think that whom ever they brought this need for a law would have asked for proof with evidence of cases where there’s a need for such a law ontop of all of that where i live every trick or treater a parent is with the child or children so i don’t understand such a need or where the evidence or if they had to even present evidence.

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    David

    To my knowledge, laws are made because there is concrete evidence of a need for a law that requires a penalty for a given action that produces harm or danger to person or place.
    The ‘spirit’ of the law is meant to create the ‘letter’ of the law.
    Here, in this case, there is no ‘spirit’ of the law.
    They have made a ‘letter’ of the law with no ‘spirit’
    The “letter’ of any law requires evidence of needing a law that justifies its ‘spirit’.
    Arkansas has defiantly made a law for which there is no use or justification for creating it.
    Why? Probably for a number of reasons.
    a) it is socially and politically fashionable to ‘hate’ and ‘despise’ sex offenders.
    b) keep the public thinking that they are actively at work producing laws that supposedly make the community safer.
    c) earn what they feel is a critical status in the next voting season.
    And there are probably more.
    All of this is legal bullying!
    Look at why high school students are committing suicide more than ever.
    Their peers tell them they are worthless and will never amount to anything.
    Their peers tell them that they wish they were dead.
    Their peers reject them, and ostracize them into isolation.
    Soon, their self esteem drops and they fear going to school, but they have to.
    Finally, they have had enough, and they take their own life.
    This just happened again here where I live.
    Some of the students even texted after she was dead saying “we would dig her up and turn over her casket if we could.”
    Does this sound familiar concerning us?
    Such abominable, useless, gut-wrenching, horrific hate and this is the same hate we are exposed to everyday!!!!
    Somewhere, some lawmaker right now is devising a new sex-offender law to make the public hate us, reject us, scorn us, ostracize us, and isolate us farther than what we already are because of a huge fat myth that legislators like those in Arkansas refuse to see, and then they pat themselves on the back and seemingly say ‘Look what I did for you to protect your children. I am some great person aren’t I.’
    I am sorry to say that to me, this is a big downer.
    When legislators refuse the truth and hold fast to a myth they cannot prove and pass a law anyway, it make me lose hope.
    When people chose to accept the lie and refuse the irrefutable truth, it make me lose faith in humanity.

    • #55916 Reply
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      Stacey

      I agree with your sentiment concerning the cause and effect of public registration leading to so much irreversible harm. I believe the “spirit” is the victim’s advocates-the family members, etc, who have initiated these laws and is supported by a public who agrees. I don’t believe Legislatures refuse facts as much as they cannot win over a public even if they know the truths around registration because they are fulfilling the wants of the majority-the obligation to public safety. Until the public can understand it’s a myth, we remain challenged by it.

      Most ‘ex-offender’ advocates (mass incarceration, re-entry, disproportionate populations/sentencing) preach to the choir and those they believe can change things (lawmakers) instead of pulling resources to begin to strategically educate the public/masses.

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        David

        Stacey, I see this as a two-way street and reciprocal. As long as the Legislatures continue to make laws in spite of the facts it fuels the public to believe there really is a danger.
        I don’t see the public suggesting these laws or making rough drafts and sending them to Legislatures-it is the work of the Legislatures themselves in what they think will appease the public’s view for protection and make them feel safe.
        Making laws like this only fuels the fire of the public and keeps the myth going, so even if we were to educate the public, but the laws continue to be made, it makes us un-redeemable.
        It is the Legislatures who are as much fault as public and in this case even more because they know the truth, but yet to appease the public, they deny it, and make a useless law anyway.
        When Legislatures refuse the truth, we don’t have a leg to stand on.
        This is all to appease the public, not for justice or protection.
        Where there is no law, there in no transgression, nor sense that a transgression against it will be made.
        You can’t break a law that doesn’t exist.
        Legislatures are fueling the fire as much as the public.

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    Timothy

    When it comes to crime ( violent or non) rates of percentages of rise and decline of crime LEO ALWAYS pays claim to decreases attributed to LEO’s ” lawful” activity. Their unions and reports constantly report decreases in violence statistically. Gun and computer related crimes are on the increase and it is not small increase either. Mass shootings rarely occurred, when I was a kid, today it’s in the news everyday. The people are following the leadership and acting more like enemy combatants than country men.

    We are lead by greedy cut throats in both left and right camps. Either party will attempt every tactic( constitutional or not) to gain a political edge in elections. The people already know and understand the status of things but most also know little can be done to stop unconstitutional government actors.

    One way our founders thought up was the right to confronting abusers of power via the trial process itself. I have at this point received summons to appear in Rock County circuit court for FTR. I intend to communicate to a 12 person jury a law, and other former laws in place the unlawful nature of my initial commitment to WISOR.

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    Saddles

    Facts? I wonder if everyone’s viewpoint is different or if everyone is on the same page in this “plight of the sex offender” Sandy has brought up a very good point.

    Fact,. its a shame that some on the registry have had to go to jail or prisons in many of these cases. Fact. Goverment should be ashamed for some of this sex registry inducement that has cropped up in to this inducment both civil and internet usage. Civil disobience is one thing and so is internet betrayal .

    Sure protecting and serving is good and so are rules. Actually folks we can all make a difference in this ordeal that each of us share in many of these sex offender issues.

    A lot of these “reaching out comments” are good on here and its no myth to understand how discrimination can do to others, whether one is induced or seduced.

    Now I’m not married but every parent wants to protect their child. I mentioned the Hatfield’s and the McCoy’s feud and yes I’m from Logan County WVA and I’m sure a lot of historians have herd of bloody Mingo, but thats not the point.. The point is facts.

    Fact, we can go with biblical history or american histry or greek & roman histry. We could go with husbands cheating on wives or the other way around but group efforts help to win the war or battle in many cases. Sure right is right and wrong is wrong or should we all go out and get a sex change operation today, sorry folks.

    At times we all dont’ think about facts but here’s a key are we all wiser than others or are a lot of us being duped.

    Hey what was women’s sufferage all about. How was the black person treated or do we still have discrimination today. Now this ssex offender issue. Was the Holocaust an advanage or disavenage? Was it for public safety? Was it a choice or a dicision a bit discriminatory.

    Yes Sandy facts carry a lot of burden at times but when one abuses their vocation in Government where does fact and myth come in. Sure I would rather go with facts than some masquarade of power abuse.

    Vocational abuse can dystroy any system of government.

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    David

    I call this ‘Legislation without representation’.
    There are NO facts to represent the legislation behind this new law and many others they have enacted.
    In the Justice system, the truth is meant to set you free, or condemn you.
    In the passing of this particular law, truth was bound and gagged until the law was enacted.
    This was an abuse of power.

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    Saddles

    Stacey I like your anthology on this as well as the other comments. Course I left out the big scandle in my hometown was the famous Logan County 5 scandle . And yes a Governor was sent to prison. Course I was still in high school at the time but this tells one about fraud in many area’ and also about money laundering.

    Sure guys I would like a lot of this stuff to be over. I can understand my convictions of DUI and the responsiblity of that than I can understand this. I wonder if people still black-ball one today.

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    Joe123

    This is a great post and should be brought to the attention of the Polk County Sheriff’s office. I have done my part and wrote a very ‘forward’ letter to their department sometime ago and commenced them on their ‘great use of tax payer money’. I hope everyone reading this will write to them as well.

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    Saddles

    Actually Sandy Joel has a good point. If any American citizen can help defend justice with fact than I’m sure everyone is in agreement with that. Typecasting one against another leads to feuds.

    While we all might be considered outcasts. Family members being unjust to serve or vote in many cases or are being discriminated in many cases a lot of this has to stop as it does no good for a country or is it the American Way of truth, liberty, and Justice for all.

    Authority is just as good as how one uses it but abuse is never good or should we go to the “One tin soilder” them as an example and I’m sure we all liked a lot of those Billy Jack movies.

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    Tony From Long Island

    I have a section in my masters thesis where I describe how the SCOTUS actually misquoted itself when it used the “frightening and high” phrase that then went on to be used in hundreds of lower court cases. Its origin was a case that talked about how offenders who refuse treatment have a “frightening and high” rate of recividivism (which isn’t even actually that accurate). From then on, the phrase was used to describe sex offenders in general. Frustrating

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      CJB

      Sir

      I would like to communicate further with you!
      how can we do this?

    • #56554 Reply
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      Mike

      Hi Tony, i heard that the phrase ” frightening and high ” came from an article out of Phycology Today magazine which Megan Kenka’s father cowrote the article, at least thats what my research have dicovered.

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    Saddles

    I believe its time for those under the sex registry to step up to the plate for “True Justice” in this fact for true justice saga. To quote a tv series.. Just the facts Ma’am.

    While lot of this is water logged and even going against the grain, these prosecutor’s won’t even give a person a minute of time as they say the case is still open. I hope we still have true justice in America today or is someone stealing someone’s pig or goat in this justice ordeal.

    Fact: While Justice deals in truth. When real truth is suppressed the little person becomes the victim. Sure governments can cover up, or suppress in many ordeals but is the sex offender in many area’s dead weight in this balance of Justice?

    Fact, if this ordeal that many of us fact some cheap dime store detective story or like a Nathan Hale conspiricy of justice ordeal.

    Fact is: A man is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. One wonders why they offer a plea deal in the rush to judgment.

    Fact is: Injustice anywhere is injustice everywhere…. Martin Luther King.

    So does the facts outweight the myths in this cover up of Justice today or should we all get our history books out. Now Mke and some of the others have brought up some good points or has anyone seen Abraham, Martin and John.

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    Mike

    Hello, i found this & checked it for authenticity:
    ONLINE SEX STING
    This is yet more proof that online stings are run by the very people that want to believe that they are “protecting” kids from…these sicko cops pretend to be children to entrap men into asking for sex. Here is a recent sting operation that the police in Florida are so proud of.

    NOTE that NOT a single registered sex offender was caught…however, one of the very policemen that participated in these stings deceiving others and trapping them was himself caught! Think he will end up registering as a sex offender…neither do I BUT the point is that these sort of entrapments do not nab registered sex offenders…you know…they ones that the government claims need to be watched and every move monitored.

    Polk’s Sheriff Grady Judd says he got one of his own guys (more will certainly follow). Perhaps he should watch his men instead of so called registered sex offenders. Of course part of his job is to create more “sex offenders” to add to Florida’s inflated registry. Well done…keep it up and soon all your men will be locked up…problem solved.

    During his latest crackdown, dubbed “Operation No Tricks, No Treats,” his deputies arrested Sgt. Luis Diaz, a 17-year veteran of the force. During that time, Diaz had taken part in undercover operations just like the one he was nabbed in. Sounds like he thought he was above the law, if you ask me.

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    Ernest B Tucker

    The difference between being on the registry and being in prison is that in prison you know who intends you harm.
    As far as holidays go I treat them just like every other day of my dead life. I stay in the house unless I have no choice like doing to sex offender treatment where I am told what a terrible person I am and how if it wasn’t for me there would be no child porn and that it’s all my fault. I have even gone to having Walmart deliver anything. Thank God for Amazon. I figure that if I avoid all contact the people they can’t accuse me of anything and violate me. So a word to the wise, avoid any activity that someone could accuse you of doing anything. Because the government will do anything to put you back in prison.
    May God bless all of you and for those of you who like me were fraudulently convicted, at this time you just have to resign ourselves to the fact that until the people out in the world stand up and put an end to this we will have to live like we are guilty and the pariah of the world.

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    Mike

    Nice article Sandy, that ” frightening and high ” statement and the 80% recidivism rate, came out of an article in the “Psychology Today” magazine. The article was written by an employee of the magazine ( I’ll get his name for you if you don’t have it.) & i believe Megan Kenka’s father cowrote that article with zero evidence & Megan’s dad cowrote the article thats just a tad prejudice, but i heard the guy who was an employee of the magazine who cowrote the article, has since done a real study and the results are recidivism is below 5% and has since retracted the previous article. I will get you all the details for you if you dont have it. Thanks

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