How Big Money Stymies S.O. Reform

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      Michael McKay
      Michael McKay

      By Michael M . . . When SORNA (Sex Offender Registration Notification Act, aka Title I of the Adam Walsh Child Protection and Safety Act of 2006) requ
      [See the full post at: How Big Money Stymies S.O. Reform]

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      Saddles

      All things are good but all things are not necessary. I wonder what stymies today? This article is good but I never wanted to stymie anyone. That word is seldom used today. Its more of a scientific term for a geek squad.
      Sure money is the issue and believe it or not the sex offender is a money making scheme. I don’t like to think above my means. Sure I like to be rational.No one can prevent human naturee or let alone prent the volcano in Hawii just like one can’t prevent sexual encounters. Even history can tell you that or are well still on this “witch hunt” as everyone talks about on here.
      Understand it this way, if computers were never came of age a lot of us wouldn’t be in this mess. Oh yes man would think of some way to “get over” on man. We can look ato this nation how they are treating the sex offender, how they are hindering the passports, immigration, etc in today’s good old USA. Look at computers today seems everybody wants to outdo the other on the computer.
      Polygraphs want to outsmart the human psyche, man wants to dominate mankind so is the sex offender really in a class by his or her self? Now someone talked about voting. Sure its our right if we want to vote. Its our right to speak out as Brenda Jones and so many of NARSOL do and others. Sure I respect one with good wisdom but human understand who can understand that. Are we all creating our own monster at times or should we all be the first on the moon… were do they come up with .. we want to be the first. Sorry I didn’t take German in school.

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      citizen

      Maybe someone should hack these databases and erase all the information they have gathered on bonafide and entitled US citizens.

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      Tim L

      The electronic device commonly known as “the database” will rival, “the printing press” with respect to its impacts upon the human condition. State’s (the people’s) justification for some uses of the device are unconscionable and nearly fruitless concerning recidivism. Ultimately, such uses will prove to impact political security more than individual safety.

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      Saddles

      I sort of like Michaels articles on here, but to me it has too much comupter swavy in it at times, of course there are pros and con’s for everything today that do not sound right at times in a lot of this sex registry stuff we all go thru. Don’t get me wrong I’m sure we all mean to belp each other and that’s what any support group or organization is for.

      While I have loved most all these articles on here. I have even loved my little quabbles at times with Maestro and Sandy. Here I come into this NARSOL with my little situation and am told we are not allowed to used religon as its not about religon. Brenda Jones know’s what she is doing but I wonder if any know what they are doing in today America. If it saves lives, if its for public safety, moral or humane purposes, or the betterment of the country. So what is truth Smokey the bear don’t play with matches unless “We” start it. Its for safety remember.

      We are all sex offenders, I believe that was an article I sent to Brenda Jones several years ago and yes I also sent it to Vicki Henry and her crew. You can even look it up on the internet. I was even fooled when I came on here and even wanted to forget my ordeal and understand NARSOL’S as a means of a support group. Even hearing of some of the story’s of others and things, Even one person on here in particular saying about sleeping with a girl underage and being the part of a live in companion to her and contributing to her, than things blew up in his or her life, than trying to cover it up. Consent of an underage girls sleeping with one, to put it mildly isn’t a good principal. Was that person trying to cover his or her actions to make it more reasonable or understanding. Why do people try to cover their actions?

      Today its not about who’s right or wrong its about principals. Its about not only about sex offenders, immigration, abortion, gay marriages and other disgraceful things. Sure I know Mike talks about this data and all this money issue but that doesn’t help when it comes right down to true principals. Can a person honestly cover up a lie or pay someone to cover it up for them. Why do you think lawyers and going to court is all about. Courts don’t get at the truth and lawyers are trying to do their best at times. The main issue in everything is principal and I wonder who has the sovernign “supreme” authority on that. I’m sure you know or should we all go back to George Washington’s days.

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      Tim Lawver

      Is it possible to introduce this type of evidence in a “failure to provide” cases?

      Anyone?

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      Tim L.

      HEY FOLKS,

      No bigger money on the table than that of big data. Circa 1990 some “in the know” positioned themselves very well in the developing market. The sex offender made the ideal scapegoat for certain uses of the new tool called the electronic database.

      The outlandish and unconstitutional moral justification for the “unfettered” USE of the database to protect the people. If you can enslave a man to it(the machine), and it’s upkeep the one can do anything with it. A more apt description to the “exact nature of the deprivation” unavailable to my tongue and finger.

      The way to a more perfect union may or may not be achieved through electronic means. That the people, more often than not, opt for convenience electronically speaking is an important clue to the ultimate outcomes concerning individual liberty.

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      Chris

      This is why we need a constitutional amendment to get money out of politics. Since there’s such a huge industry for these products, companies will continue to lobby lawmakers to push for more and more monitoring. I can already see politicians using the popular prison reform movement to push GPS monitoring as an alternative to incarceration. Voters who don’t know about the problems with GPS monitors will applaud these steps, and the companies that manufacture and license the ankle bracelets will rake in the cash, further bilking tax payers of billions of dollars.

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      Glen

      So, now I can see the new next bestest argument made by legislators in support of the registry. “We are creating jobs!!!”

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        Tim L

        Glen,

        IMHO,
        THE regime was more about establishing justifications for certain gov’t uses of a database than protecting and informing. The men in grey, who I often refer to as Surveillance, Saints, needed the legal bars hoisted upon networks via U.S. V. AT&T cases to not be applicable to the internet. The sex deviant made the perfect scapegoat.for the men in grey to advance their cause and desires to both collect and analyze data for political security via the PRIS PROGRAM in Saratoga Springs, Utah.
        https://www.eff.org/search/site/Prism

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          Glen

          Tim,

          I would not be surprised to learn you’re exactly right about that. I worked for the government once and Ive seen some things. It makes sense to me.

          Since they have a precedent with the registry that’s judicially supported, it pretty much ensures the “Surveillance Saints” will continue to expand their efforts.

          I read the article you posted. Very interesting. I’m going to read a little more about it. But, it got my attention.

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      Tim

      Glen,
      Andy who broadcasts registry matters seems to think I need a tin foil hat for my conspiracy theory. According to him, the database has nothing to do with sex offenders or the registry. Clearly the gov’t USE of the devices were FIRST aimed at the sex offender making them subservient to the state’s machine. When one human forces another human subservient to machines we are in very dangerous and onerous times. (See:eff.org)

      To be clear, informing the public about about criminal convictions IS appropriate and legitimate gov behavior, but only if the information is clear and concretely informative. SOR fails that end precisely because of the ambiguous nature of states broadcast. Simply put, if I know a man is on the registry does it inform me of his character or what he actually done or capable of..No? Therefore one cannot know what the registrant is capable of, a threat or not, based solely upon conviction. The reason being we know for sure some on the registry were never actually guilty of harming a child. What’s more some registrants were completely innocent and on the list because of wrongful conviction. Ask me how I know.

      The reason the men in grey and the establishment erected the facility in Saratoga Spings, UT. was for political security against the threat of social media to upset their financial Apple carts. The Dems were the first to harness the web’s social media platforms to get a man of color elected to POTUS. Trump came next. The Don’s e-campaign via Twitter demolished the establishment Rs field of RINOs, and cut out mainstream media first crack at breaking political news. Mainstream media, TV&PRINT, are dinosaurs and their power to influence the public wanes. All of these facts prove the power of electronic media as a serious threat to established interest groups who depend upon congressional appropriations for working cash. The tax pie is key to their survival. (See Byrne grant history at: https://www.bja.gov/JAG/)

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      Saddles

      Actually I liked wonder woman’s golden lasso of truth, and that stymie’s enough in a lot of government circles. Sorry just the truth. the facts matter when one says where’s the money…

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