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June 15, 2018 at 1:10 pm #42138
By Sandy . . . Over forty years ago, Wayne Chapman was convicted of raping two boys. He claimed to have had as many as a hundred victims. He was sente
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June 15, 2018 at 7:06 pm #42148
Civil Commitment does not rehabilitate and used as a cover to continue punishment of sex offenders. The so called self appointed experts on sex are actually sex perverts under cover.
June 15, 2018 at 7:06 pm #42149
totally against public registry
Thanks for reporting on this so important issue that is spreading like wild fire through our country. The “REGISTRY” is to blame for all of this- from beginning to end.
Thanks to NARSOL and all who are working to undue this heinous crime that this country is committing!
June 15, 2018 at 7:20 pm #42153
Capt Charles Munsey Jr. USN (Ret)
Non-criminal commitment? What’s the story with the fence and the wire? Is that to keep the ‘good citizens’ of Mass out of the hospital? We as a nation have been deceived by ‘nice sounding’ words, signifying nothing.
June 15, 2018 at 9:52 pm #42161
a man without a country
Re: words signifying nothing… I’ve not been able to read Sandy’s new post yet because I am livid, literally pulling my hair out after reading something from an online newspaper of the state where I became a member of our exclusive club…
The state’s deputy attorney general just recently said this at a gathering of attorneys in the state…
“Think about these things happening to a child when they’re young, say 5 years old. The images of that are put on the internet. When they’re 35 or 40, they’re not a survivor of the abuse. It’s still going on,” he said.
He cited victim impact statements where victims recounted how they were grocery shopping years later and “someone is looking at them weird and they have to wonder if that person has seen their child abuse photos or videos and recognizes them. Think about having to live with that for the rest of your life.”
I sent an anonymous message to the AG’s office on this one. First of all, I don’t think the internet is 30 or 40 years old yet. Second, someone who had a pic taken of them when they were five is going to have a visceral feeling when someone sees that picture DECADES LATER? Third, this ‘eternal victimhood’ reminds me of Sandy’s other recent, outstanding article. And fourth, he’s saying that someone who has AGED three or four decades can be recognizable by a complete stranger who has only seen a picture of ‘me’ as a five-year-old? B-effing-S!
Please contact me NARSOL. I will let you know who this poor excuse for an ‘educated’ person is so you can send him some materials!!!
June 15, 2018 at 7:58 pm #42155
What we need is a law that protects us against State and Federal government from passing and interfering with offenders released from prisons after they serve their lawful sentence imposed by the government. I am so tired of “victims rights”advocates being given special right just because they are perceived by others as victims of some crime. Nobody in American has special rights. Our rights are supposed to be equal to all citizens in the US. I am so fed up with this CRAP! Bild a bridge, cry a river and get over it!
June 17, 2018 at 8:25 am #42181
I agree Tim.
I would love for all of us to send message back to #MeTOO ——> with #GetOverIt.
I have lost all respect for professional victims!!
June 18, 2018 at 1:58 pm #42217
I’ve just recently heard that Sylvester Stallone is now being accused of some sort of unconenting sexual incident that apparently happened in the late 80’s or early 90’s.
#metoo can go screw!
Welcome to the downfall of western civilization. As long as we can destroy men, at least one political party will be thrilled. And they know who they are.
June 15, 2018 at 9:52 pm #42162
Thank you Sandy, and all others involved with standing up for this man. You would think that 40 years would be enough time served. Good Job!
June 16, 2018 at 7:41 am #42168
When you stop and think for a moment that this man was convicted for only 2 offenses because that’s what he got caught for and then after the fact he admits to having raped countless others that he got away with, take a moment and imagine how (before he got caught, charged and convicted) no one knew any better about him as he freely lived his life, probably liked by his neighbors, colleagues and the local bagel shop employees (just threw that in there) while harboring this deep dark secret all along right under everyone’s noses.
Now, imagine how many other FREE people with no criminal record are out there doing these types of crimes right under everyone’s noses and perhaps some of these people are the ones pretending they are goodie-two-shoes by protesting this man’s release and sending those death threats.
So many men (yes, men) who are of the macho man mindset of “You better not touch MY daughter” are the ones touching someone else’s daughter, or even their own.
Food for thought.
June 17, 2018 at 8:25 am #42180
Hi what i want to know is they say Pc.290 is not a punishment but what does pc of pc290 mean? Pc stands for penal code 290, penal is short for penalizing code which stands for punishing code in there own writing says it is a punishment and if u put someone on a registry means you believe they will do it again, then why let people out if there going to commit the same crime thats insanity and what happened with the whole process, you go to jail or prison for crime you committed you do your time because that said time is supposed to be rehabilitation if you are rehabilitated then why the registry if you are rehabilitated, there is a person (true story) who murdered both his parents did 32 years in prison n once off parole there’s no registry for him, that makes no common sense, first you get arrested go to jail or prison do your time plus either parole or probation and all crimes except S.O. are done n free but not S.O.’s what happened to equal rights n law is equal to all (except S.O.) what?
June 18, 2018 at 1:58 pm #42216
To answer your question, it’s because we have conditioned ourselves to believe that sex, sexual intercourse and anything to do with sexual desires (regardless if they are deviant or not) is more dangerous to the public than murder.
I suppose at this stage of the game, a person would rather be brutally tortured to death for not giving a burglar the combination to the home safe rather than be raped by the burglar and live to press charges. 🤷🏻♂️ That’s just one example of my take on why sex offenses are punished more than any other type of crime. Let’s not even get into the consenting under age teens. Oh what a danger you are if your state law is 17 but the girl who gladly consented to a sexual endeavor with you was only 16. She can’t possibly know what sex is but she is fully licensed to run you over with a motor vehicle. 🤦🏻♂️
June 17, 2018 at 8:25 am #42184
It is Very Unconstitutional!! There are Judges whom already said Civil Commitment is Unconstitutional! These men have completed their Time and By Law have a Release Date! How By Law are they taken Back to Court and in Court the Judge and DA act like there was another Victim,but by the Damn Truth there is no Victim,They Bring Up the previous case and it’s told that Civil Commitment is Not Double Jeapardy….But it is! and it’s Happening in Conroe in 435th Court Where Judge Seiler was there doing Civil Commitment on these Men.When Does this Mess End!!! Its Bad enough the State Paid these Doctors to Evaluate these Men for up to an hour and with that the Doctor is Able to Say that these Men have a Mental Abnormality Behavior Issue! How does that Happen??? The Doctors are Getting Paid to Say what the State wants and these Men are being places in Little Field where they have the Secret Prison,We are in the United States and This Cannot Be Happening! CONGRESS AND SENATORS NEED TO STEP UP AND MAKE CHANGES…THESE MEN NEED TO BE INVESTIGATED AND EVALUATED FOR RELEASE! DUE TO CORRUPTED JUDGE/DA AND COURT APPT ATTORNEY NOT CORRECTLY REPRESENTING THESE MEN.
THE JUDICIAL COMMITTEE NEEDS TO ALSO GET INVOLVED,FAMILIES ARE WAITING…..DOCUMENTS WILL BE SENT OUT. I HOPE THIS WILL MAKE YOU UNDERSTAND,THAT EVERYONE MUST FOLLOW THE LAW,EVEN SENATORS,CONGRESS,AND ALL ABOVE.THANK YOU!
June 18, 2018 at 1:58 pm #42215
totally against public registry
Irene, I agree with you. I hear and feel your rage. I also can’t believe that 20 states in our country carry this kind of charade without any oversight. In the case of civil commitment, seems that the fox is guarding the henhouse. We just have to be vigilant- keep writing and keep showing up to voice our revolt for change!
June 17, 2018 at 8:25 am #42185
Sandy I want to thank you as the last comment I wrote on here really wasn’t approiate for this ses registry we are all involved in. I know judgement goes a long way.
Is there life after civil confinement sure there is. Should we all clean up the swamp or just go by some psychologists of a person that can’t be rehiblitated. Change is what its all about but for a change one has to have a principal to use as a guideline if one wants to measure.
It seems nobody understands what those on the sex registry go ethru. Sure life is not easy and in jail or prison its twice as worce so do you make the choice or the decision to go fly a kite or attach a key to the end of the electrical string. Sure we can all be the sex offender as Maestro said and yes we can all do wrong at times but I wonder why Rome fell to make Rome Great or to make America Great.
June 18, 2018 at 1:58 pm #42214
I want to know if he really did expose himself to a nurse in the mental hospital recently, when he was nearing his release date.
The fact that no other incidents of exhibitionism were noted on his record over the last 40 years in prison and in the mental hospital doesn’t prove that such incidents hadn’t happened. They are unlikely to be reported when the offender is a “lifer.” What are the authorities going to do… put him in prison? He’s already there! Declare him mentally unfit? He was already so declared!
It’s only when a man is about to be released into society when the staff at a prison or mental hospital have any real reason to care about relatively minor offenses like flashing his genitals at the institution staff. No big deal when done in there. It’s a huge deal if he were to do that on the outside, at the county library or at his own front yard when the school bus passes by.
So, I want this alleged new incident of sexual deviancy investigated. If he did that, keep him in. He’s not fit to release. If it’s a false accusation, then declare him innocent of that, affirm the prior finding that he’s sufficiently rehabilitated, and send him out into society.
June 18, 2018 at 7:22 pm #42226
The key to all or a lot of this sex registry is civil commentment of the worst kind. A lot of this has to do with govermental abuse such as labeling, natural abuse such as the taking away kids from parents which is creating a storm. Not letting people into a free country as they might think they are here to corrept society. refusing right, conspiricy of some of these sex offender ordeals. I could go on and on and I’m sure some of you could also.
Rome fell which was the greatest empire in the world because of corruption, polical power, and being overzealous in their beliefs. Sure we all look at this sex offender from the outside but we don’t look at it from the inside. Thats like looking at the outward man and giving him or her no chances. Just labeling them in society and have they cary a sign that said I will work for food. Where is any compassion or love thy neighbor in any of this. Crime is still gome to be crime or should we all say, I’m ashamed because I was naked. America needs to get back to principal to make anything great and stop abusing others for government self-esteem and pride.
Now I have to agree with Sandy and a lot of you guys on this.