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August 16, 2020 at 6:07 pm #75302
By Larry . . . NARSOL is excited to report on another win in the state of Tennessee. In fact, this is the second favorable decision in Tennessee in re
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August 16, 2020 at 8:47 pm #75303
Seems strange, when my sentence was 1983, convicted in wisconsin. Released in 1993. Signed a paper while on parole to register for 10 yrs. Or, length of parole [ended 2012] . But in 2002 was placed on lifetime. Live in Minnesota and register in 2 states, and new rules applied to me by 2 states. Yet this is NOT considered punishment?
Tried to get someone, anyone to take my case to no avail. I am now 68 yrs old 100% disabled, so am expecting to go to my grave on registry.
I hope this person wins this case. Before they lose all, as i have
August 17, 2020 at 5:51 am #75308
This is a reality that many hope not to have to face. I feel for you. When those few of this society learns what ramifications such a law imposes on its members across the country and that forcing a county to enact law is just as unjustified, maybe we will begin to truly move forward as a people of wisdom. The movement has to have a lasting affect in order to effect change. Thank you for all you are doing.
August 17, 2020 at 5:52 am #75309
Tim in WI
You must fight to win. All good stuff in this piece. The only thing missing is an accounting of legal fees. Few reports are made on those facts.
All of these same facts do come out in felony FTR cases IF of course you defend yourself, pro se or otherwise, in a jury situation. The only real difference between filing for a federal injunction is about 400$+ cost of production of documents in triplicate. FTR cases cost very little except time. The presumption of innocence and burden are different. Some of us have the advantage, as this case, with being completely ex post (pre94). Naturally I’m happy with this ruling because it proves the minority opinions in Smith V. It also proves with respect the ” use of database infrastructure ” the unconstitutional uses abound to epic proportions. FISA for example, a regime with secret courts for political protections associated with electronic domestic surveillance saints and programs. All advanced of course on the pseudo civil use of SOR and the plain indenture implicit.
August 17, 2020 at 9:59 am #75314
I’m glad for the guy in TN, but sad for Arne. I feel for you Brother. I too, may end up dying while on The Registry Myself. However; I’m going to try Fighting First, before I go to My Grave. At least I’ll Go Down Swinging! It’s going to take a massive Political Shift in this so-called effort of ‘Criminal Justice Reform’, for any REAL REFORM to take place including Eradication of The Curse of The Registry!
August 17, 2020 at 10:00 am #75315
Thanks Larry, Well written, so the key word for me is Punitive which is intended as a punishment inflicted. I look at the Registration and Punitive as equal, for this man as well as everyone on the Registry. What other crime has this type of restrictions that continue above and beyond. That is the problem I feel, and I am not on the registry. I cannot give out candy or decorate my house for Halloween. I cannot have my grandchildren at my house only the ones that are over 18. This is when my beloved so called SO is in the house I feel for my grandson who cannot see his brothers who are younger. I feel for everyone that is a part of this messed up laws, that are punishment in the highest degree. We will Win, because the more that get put into this soup bowl. The more it opens the eyes of ones that were not aware of the horrors of being labeled a Sex Offender. Good Luck to this young man, and thank for fighting for the rights of us all.
August 17, 2020 at 10:21 am #75318
“[T]ime-consuming and cumbersome in-person reporting” is no doubt laborious and recompensable.
August 17, 2020 at 11:11 am #75320
*For example, restrictions about entering schools, playgrounds and other facilities were added in 2008*
So, for example, these additional restrictions are not because something actually happened on a playground but rather it’s to make the neighborhood busy bodies feel good. So what’s the excuse for not having these restrictions since 1994? There’s a good argument to bring up in a fight against the registry.
Also, this man’s case and the restrictions of where he cannot go just proves that no one cares what the offense was. This man was a teenager and raped an ADULT. But everyone fears he’s going to molest a child so therefore he cannot go to a playground or a school.
Just like how the NYC mayor wants to restrict “certain” sex offenders from using the subway system. Yeah . Right. No one cares how petty or severe a sex offense is, it’s a sex offense and anyone who ever encounters a cop for ANY reason (getting mugged or assaulted in the subway by thugs) is going to be treated as if he/she doesn’t belong on the subway trains because he/she has a sex offense conviction.
What do we do about this nonsense?
August 17, 2020 at 12:04 pm #75325
David V C
Praise God!!!!! This is great news and we all need to hear wins like this.
As I read various sites, and even ‘hate’ related sites, more and more journalists, writers, and common people are beginning to see the facts and statistics about recidivism, and how worthless and punitive the registry really is and the collateral damage it causes, so, praise God!!!!!!
August 18, 2020 at 6:40 am #75331
H n H
Maestro, good question, not sure how to attack stupidity. Before my life incident, I was heavily into repairing aircraft. I was part of a forum online and gave that information to the registry with no problem. Upon my release from prison, my PO asked about online activity. So I was up front with him and told him about the forum I was on. He looked into it and seen what it was all about, homebuilt aircrafts, etc etc. Then told me he didn’t want me on there because there were other people on there and THAT was cause for concern that I may invite a young boy to town to take him flying or something and molest him. Now, I’d been to 2 separate psychological experts who gave me a full review and range of tests before going to prison and was not deemed a pedophile. While in prison, I was again examined by another know it all psychologist who deemed me not to be a pedophile. Then my poly came back and showed I’d passed everything. The court determined I was NOT a predator, yet my nut job PO deems it his responsibility to ban me from looking at planes for “fear” of something completely unfounded and baseless… I was in trouble for a teenage girl who came onto me. Not the other way around. And the trial proved that. Yet since I got out, I’ve learned that my PO deems me as trash and not a human at all. Every move I make has to be monitored and policed, this makes any form of private sexual life a complete waste of time and is just more shame for every time I get aroused. The problem here is not just the registry, but people’s fears about anything sexual. Of course these same men and women all have sexual toys and porn in their house and it’s ok cause they aren’t under the eye of scrutiny. The hypocrisy is beyond words.
While in prison, the class shoved down our throats the misperceptions of “catastrophizing” situations and making something more than what they were. We were deemed mentally messed up if we showed to be looking for the worst, yet that’s exactly what the state does. When I pointed that out to my PO, his reaction was, don’t argue and don’t let what you want to say keep you from going somewhere you don’t want to be. In other words, it’s the states narrative and that is that I’m a pedophile, the facts and their findings be damned.
I don’t know where to go with such skewed thinking.
All I can say is, fighting for freedom from the sex offender stigma (lifetime parole, registry) is like screwing for virginity or fighting for peace. It’s useless. I don’t know what to do with my life anymore, this defines me. My death is the only way out….. 30 more yrs, get here!
August 18, 2020 at 10:50 am #75339
perplexed in NC
I have long asked how one can have a rational discussion with irrational people…
The politicians function by inciting fear and proposing that they alone can provide security; give them power over your life and all will be well. Yet we know that it doesn’t work. Ask people living in Communist China if bad stuff still happens after the state has all the power.
I would like to think that if we turn their rhetoric around on them, by using their soundbites on other issues to demonstrate the fallacy of the registry, that we could get them to back off. I am not sure that they care enough about truth to do the right thing, but I think we have to try…
August 18, 2020 at 11:36 am #75343
H n H,
I feel for you man. I am no longer on probation or the registry and I refuse to ever be on either again. And I mean that!
As for probation, they are puppets doing what they are programmed to do. They know they’re full of crap. Banning you from an aviation group!!! That’s something I would save up money to hire an attorney for. Don’t be afraid to file a complaint about probation. I did it. Hell, I did a 2 page spread interview about their lunacy in a local newspaper. Then another with a Yale college student who was doing an assignment and chose see offenders as her topic.
I laughed to myself when I walked into my P.O.’s office the following week to see a copy of the newspaper article on her desk. I pissed them off but pissing off a probation officer with your constitutional freedom of speech is NOT violation worthy. And if they DO violate you, it will be something else they use as an excuse which you will hands down win in court.
I also filed a complaint with the local chapter of then civil liberties union which the guy I spoke to convinced me…. manipulated me… into not continuing with the lawsuit and to just follow their rules until it’s over. Yeah… no! Their probation rules do not make sense. I have always been of the belief that probation is a waste of taxpayer money. If you get sentenced to 10 years but only have to do 2 with the remaining 8 suspended, then leave it at that. If you do something wrong, the court can play with the 8 yrs hanging over your head. There is no need for a probation officer to LOOK for b.s. to send you back to prison. Also, some people’s probation ends before their registration ends. In CT registration is 10 yrs. but there were guys that only had 5 yrs of probation. What’s the point? Also, you can deny plea deals and request a few more years in prison to avoid probation. THAT RIGHT THERE proves that probation is useless.
I don’t know how I feel about “defund the police” but I would love to defund probation.
August 19, 2020 at 1:00 pm #75359
A Mistake They Made
Here is one for our team! Thank You!
November 29, 2020 at 6:25 pm #78470
David G White
I totally understand. I plead guilty to aggravated sexual abuse in kentucky when i was 18 years old. Actually 17 when arrested but turned 18 before i plead guilty in 1991 and got 5 years probation. The state of Kentucky still to this day does not make me register because my plea predates the sex offender but i move to Tennessee thinking well if i dont have to register in the state where i plead then i dont have to register then one day i was arrested and charged with not registering. Had to hire an attorney and my life as i knew it changed forever. I registered then lost the home i lived in, my job, everything that meant anything to me. For a long time i considered suicide but just couldnt do it. Now 30 years later i am a violent sex offender. I have never been violent in my whole life and am now disabled and diagnosed with cardiomyopathy and am dying. The constant stress i have carried my entire life is too much to bear. They say this is not punitive when i have had to spend my entire life looking over my shoulder wondering when i am gonna violate one of the hundred rules that we have to follow. I made a terrible mistake a very long time ago. I did my probation and 11 years of therapy and made things right and am very close now to the 37 year old person. But i have been slandered, laughed at, ridiculed, lost everything that ever meant anything to me and am now dying and i too will die on this stupid registry. And they say this is not punitive i got put on basically lifetime probation and even have to give them money but its not punitive. I pray for all the people out there that share my story and pray that they abolish this registry.