@Fred Keymaster it may have been improper information or just my lack of understanding what’s going on. But yes I though pa was going to be on court this week for whatever reason. As far as I know PA Supreme courts have ruled pa ruling for anyone post 12/20/2012 punitive dut to the Muniz case. So looking forward to next year I guess. I have to keep thinking positive and PA has called it punitive so god willing something good happens for us.