What a difference a day (on the sex offender registry) makes

By Sandy . . . Several decades ago, a boy by the name of Adam Oakey was the bane of the Albuquerque, New Mexico, police department with an extensive juvenile record. As an adult arrested six times on various charges of assault and battery between 1997 and 2007, he was described as the stuff of which nightmares are made.

Hearing him speak now of working to keep young people from heading down the same path, it is no wonder he is being recognized and lauded in the media for turning his life around. Certainly he deserves the recognition and the praise. He is almost being given the status of a folk hero, a status not at all diminished by the slogan “From the streets to the cage to the courtroom.”

In his late thirties, Adam started law school, passed the New Mexico bar exam in 2018, and today has his own law firm. He has proven that he deserved the second – and third and fourth and fifth – chance given to him.

In Kentucky a young man of 22, Guy Hamilton-Smith, was wrestling with demons of his own. In 2006 he was arrested for possession of child pornography. He tells his own story here. Guy was subsequently admitted to the University of Kentucky law school where he did well and graduated in the top third of his class.

However, when the time came for Guy to sit for the bar, he was denied due to his sexual offense conviction and his placement on the Kentucky sexual offense registry. He fought this, going all the way to the Kentucky Supreme Court. The Court upheld the decision to deny Guy the right to sit for the bar. The ruling included the statement that he can take the exam when his duty to register expires and he is no long listed; he will be 49 when that occurs.

Guy has become a prominent civil rights advocate and criminal justice analyst, earning fellowships and becoming well known in the advocacy world. He has proven himself to be a skilled writer and public speaker, using the platforms to promote his message wherever possible: Having a chance at redemption and being allowed the opportunities for overcoming past mistakes should be available to everyone who wants them.

In 2003 Kobe Bryant was a shining star on the basketball court. That is the year in which he  was accused of sexual assault. Even though criminal charges were brought, they were dropped after the accuser refused to testify but instead brought a civil suit which was settled out of court. Bryant admitted to a sexual encounter with the woman but denied the assault charge. He issued a public apology and continued with his professional athletic career, being recognized as one of basketball’s all-time greats.

When he, along with his young daughter and others, were recently killed in a helicopter crash, accolades for him and his athletic skills poured in from every source. When a Washington Post reporter sent out a series of Tweets regarding his earlier sexual assault charges, she was suspended for a brief period by the Post, and she reported receiving “tens of thousands” of angry replies as well as death threats on Twitter regarding her mentions of Kobe’s past accusation.

In 2017 Luke Heimlich was a rising star on the baseball field. Still at Oregon State University where he, as a pitcher, was leading his team to victory after victory, he was a shoo-in for his choice of professional teams in the upcoming draft.

That is also the year that something he had done as a child came up to haunt him and subsequently destroy his career.

In 2012, Luke was convicted of sexual molestation by inappropriate touching of a younger female relative. Luke was 12 or 13 when it happened, 15 when convicted. He successfully completed a period of probation that included a diversion program and therapy designed specifically for children who have been sexually inappropriate. He was put on Washington’s sexual offense registry, but because that state does not make public the offenders like Luke who are assessed as a very low risk to re-offend, he was doing what benefits society. He was moving forward and building a life as a law-abiding, contributing member.

That all came crashing down around his head in 2017 when his status as a registered sexual offender, always known by the university, was unearthed by a reporter and widely publicized.

Condemnation came from every corner. Comment boards on articles about Luke were filled with diatribes about him. The brave few who dared suggest that he had been a child, that he deserved a second chance, were shouted down with accusations, name calling, and even death threats against those writers.

It was all over. Luke did not play in the play-offs; he was not drafted in 2017 or 2018 by any MLB team. Later in 2018, he was scouted by a team with the Chinese Professional Baseball League. He was signed and then terminated the same day with the league citing zero tolerance for players with criminal records. Today he is playing with a league in Mexico.

Four men, all with criminal misconduct histories. Two managed their difficulties without the specter of public registration hanging over their heads. Today one is a respected, honored attorney. The other, though deceased, lives on in his legacy of athletic prowess and honor.

The other two were not as fortunate. One, a law school graduate as fully qualified in all respects but one as his counterpart, is denied the opportunity to practice the profession for which he dedicated years of his life training. The other, an athlete with every promise of achieving  greatness equal to that of his counterpart, is ostracized and shamed, demeaned on every hand, and driven from his native country.

It is wonderful when those who have histories and backgrounds of anti-social, even criminal, behavior are able to overcome their bad beginnings or actions and become persons worthy of praise and honor. It is wonderful that society favors giving them second – and sometimes third and fourth – chances and they take advantage of them and live worthy, productive lives.

It is horrible, and it is a blight on our society, that not all who want that second chance are given it. The denied individuals suffer, but we as a society suffer more.

The loss is incalculable, and as long as we hold on to the blight that is the sexual offense registry and use it as a guideline for bestowing or withholding second chances and opportunities for redemption, the loss will flourish and grow without ceasing, and we will continue to be the worse for it.

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Sandy Rozek

Sandy is communications director for NARSOL, editor-in-chief of the Digest, and a writer for the Digest and the NARSOL website. Additionally, she participates in updating and managing the website and assisting with a variety of organizational tasks.

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      Chris C

      This is yet another well-written article from NARSOL (thanks Sandy!) that points out the huge hypocrisy and injustice in the country. It underscores the reality that we all find implicit in American justice: It works best when you have fame and fortune. Otherwise, don’t expect a balanced scale of justice.

      I found myself wanting to contact the reporter who dug up dirt on Luke for the sake of advancing a career. What other motives could there be for writing that article? To protect the public?

      Sometimes, it seems to me, we need to focus on enlightening the press and helping them understand the delicate balance between the public “needing to know” and situations where news is not really newsworthy, but rather done for opportunism and greed.

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      Donna

      When all people start to really and truly take a good hard look at themselves in the mirror, I doubt if any can say anything bad about anyone else. Every story posted may be about a different person but the basic story is the same. Mean hateful people have always found an excuse to ridicule others and always will. You may see it in traffic, by neighbors toward other neighbors, in schools where many children are bullied for one reason or another, and even in Churchs, where tolerance can sometimes be at an all time low. Our continued support for NARSOL and our state affiliate is the only feasible solution. We must speak out for those on the registry, quote statistics, and provide financial support whenever possible. Don’t lose faith people, and having a plan B is probably a good idea.

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      EdC

      Donna, your mirror comment is telling. Part of the illogical vilification of sex offenders may be an unconscious attempt to push the mirror away, to pretend the monsters are not within but without. Sexuality is a powerful, deeply-rooted human characteristic that can evoke the entire spectrum of our emotions. Virtually every person has entertained a sexual thought, perhaps briefly, that evokes guilt or fear. It is comforting to convince ourselves that we are not capable of what those evil others are.

      P.S. Sandy, I always find your well written articles enlightening. Thanks.

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      G

      This story gives me hope, but it also pisses me off. There are so many of us who were in really messed up places mentally and ended up doing some messed up stuff. Some of us have paid and paid but somehow still owe. I was convicted of predatory criminal sexual assault in 2006 when I was 24, for a crime I committed 2 years earlier. I was feeling so bad about it that I eventually told on myself. I had never done anything bad before. I was sentenced to 10 years at 85% with 3 years supervision, which I served in prison since I couldn’t find a place to live. So I served 11 years of what was supposed to be 8 1/2. I’m 37 now. I know I’m not that guy anymore and that I have no interest in minors, which makes it hard to explain how I was able to do what I did. But I have been homeless since it’s so hard to find places far from daycares in Chicago. This has been such a drain on my life that I rarely care about anything. The only thing I want in life is my freedom back, the freedom to be the person I’ve always wanted to be. It’s all any of us want and we all deserve it, especially if we served lengthy prison sentences. That has to count for something, right?

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      James Coghill

      So he can’t be a member of the State Bar which is required to work as an attorney. I think they just screwed up because if this happened then it’s going to affect either the tax status of the state bar or the administrative status of the registry. You can’t have it both ways. You need to look into the tax status of the state bar and determine if they violated tax law. If they are in any way tax exempt then they have to be EEOC compliant and in this case they wouldn’t be. If you find this to be true file an EEOC complaint against them. There is more than one way to skin a labor union of pettifogger shister attorney’s groveling for filthy lucre.

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        Sandy Rozek
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        It isn’t a matter of being a member of the state bar. Before one can be licensed to practice law, he or she must take and pass the bar exam in the state in which he or she will practice. Those in charge of this in Kentucky ruled that he could not take the bar exam while he was a registered sexual offender. That decision was backed up by courts all the way to the Kentucky Supreme Court.

        Not too long ago, a person could practice law if he took and passed the bar exam, even if he had never been to college. That may still be true for all I know. But passing the bar exam is a requirement of being allowed to practice law, and you can’t pass it if they won’t let you take it.

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      Kirk Kubik

      Well said we always put others down and vilify others to cope with our own guilt and shame. Those that are the loudest are those you need our empathy as they struggle blindly in their efforts to feel good about themselves. Although we would love to lambaste them for all the short comings we see in them, which would only serve to show the world our continued struggle with our own guilt and shame. When each of us can truly be happy in our own skin is when the whole world will be at peace. We must except ourselves as we are with all our shortcomings. Then and only then can we fully except others and their shortcomings and live in peace.

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      MARK S.

      Oh gee, yet another story about the world of hate, revenge, unforgiveness, distrust, paranoia, coldness,image,ad nauseum……. Why am I not surprised…. On the other-hand, there are those who can squeak by and make something for themselves. It seems to be the minority these days.

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      Sex Offender life long label

      After 10 years of living as an out caste, losing everything, including family due to the “sex offender label”
      you will soon never be able to travel, live free again or get a decent job or living space, it will only get worse.
      Plan B Move out of U.S. of Amnesia , it worked, life normal. See ya all,
      never coming back to this evil elite masonic secret society controlled country
      where everything is rigged and scripted to control you.

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      Kevin Scott

      Thank you Sandy for another well written article of reason and Sanity. It’s a travesty That our society is a one-and-done type of mentality. That’s not the way life is supposed to be and most certainly not the way we’re supposed to treat each other. Thank you again for all your wisdom.

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      David

      News has become mainly of a by-word of what it actually is.
      When the daytime ‘shock’ shows came out years ago, and the rating responses skyrocketed, then the news, as it is loosely called, really began to ‘flare’ the stories.
      The more ‘shocking’ you can make a story, the more ratings and buzz you will achieve, and any element(s) to make it so is fair game.
      This is why I personally don’t put much stock in local news.
      They are competing against other networks and shows that air at the same time, so they ’embellish’ a little here, a little there, A LOT here, and a little more over there to create a news ‘program’ that appeals to the senses of the viewers and sometimes they get sued for going too far!
      Anchors are working for the station owner, and in order to keep their job, they must read the script given to them as prepared by the producer and editor or be fired!
      Right now, there isn’t another title or stigma that causes more hatred and inflammation in the minds of viewers than ‘sex offender’ and if the ‘news’ can include that in a story, then it has a greater ‘buzz value’ than if it didn’t, and this is why we see reporters adding this title to people whose stories didn’t even have anything to do with a sex offense, but are on the registry.
      If you could make a story that says “John Doe, Registered Sex Offender dies of a heart attack”, many, many people would be talking amongst themselves saying things like ‘Wish he would have died sooner’ or ‘Our neighborhood is safer’, etc., but if you make a story that simply said “John Doe died of a heart attack” people would read the story( if it made it past the editors desk) and say “So what?” “Who cares”!

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      Sandy Rozek
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      To reply to both Mark and life long label, I am not implying or suggesting that no one on the registry will succeed in life or realize accomplishments, goals, or happiness. This piece is a comparison of four men, and the facts are what they are. There is no one on the registry who would not admit that they have faced some degree of discrimination because of it, but many on the registry live happy and fulfilled lives. Read our Humans on the Registry section — https://humans.narsol.org/. Read some of the success stories on our blog, such as https://narsol.org/2020/01/tennessee-registrants-business-success-doesnt-please-everyone/ or https://narsol.org/2019/05/im-a-child-rapist-a-story-in-four-parts-part-i/ to name only a couple, or scroll through Tales from the registry — https://tftr.narsol.org/ — and you will find stories of success.

      Now, that said, do we focus more on the negative than the positive? Yes. Why? We are an organization that advocates for change. For others to see that change is needed, they must see the system is fraught with inequities and abuse. Nothing has ever been changed when everyone was satisfied with the status quo. If no one had had problems with what Hitler was doing, Germany and possibly much of Europe might be fascist today. If everyone was satisfied with the way life was in the American south in the thirties and forties, we quite possibly would still be living with racial segregation. The registry is wrong. The destruction it causes to individuals, families, and society cannot continue. If it takes showcasing the discrimination and inequities suffered by everyone on it to help bring it to an end, then that is what we will do.

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      Svejk

      Great article, Sandy! As long as the registry remains lucrative for the states and companies involved in enforcing it, we will be on the losing side. Even though we are winning some battles, the greater war rages on. Whatever happened to the fresh start initiatives those in government kept spewing forth? What about this prison reform act? Bet there’s nothing in there for the likes of us! I have it good….100% disabled vet, so steady income, a decent apartment, off the registry here in PA, and passport re-issued (had to pay!) without their ridiculous stamp. Just got back from 3 weeks in Europe and was only minimally spoken to when I returned, no electronics seized and nothing inspected. Now we just have to kick the crap out of states like FL and NV who have dead folks, and names without even any data on their registries.

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      Derek

      I think about bill clinton who did lose his law license, but who needs that anyway at 60 something with a foundation bringing in millions , HE SIGNED THE SEX OFFENDER REGISTRATION INTO LAW on a federal level , but he himself is a multiple time sexual offender and convicted or found guilty in civil court, just like Kobe, pay the fine and you can continue your life , no registry this double standard in AMERICA is so damaging, hurtful , they say you make a “victim” the state will then make you a victim your parents your children, who ever they can through you and it doesnt matter, all under the manipulation of using children ” to keep them safe ” as the reason to cut a hole in the constitution to fit the punishment inflicted daily on the lives of registered citizens and they know or maybe they dont but the studies sure do that these laws do not work , my hope is in the lord , my hope is in the next life after this I think about all the things I wish I could do but know cannot , my son was taking from us after he was born 7-26 -19 , we live in a hotel , we can afford something it’s just finding something , Ove prayed for over a decade about these laws , lord bring us deliverance truth mercy grace , fairness to the system

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      T

      Yes they out people on a list and then they are thrown away the rest of their lives, even after decades of time have passed still ostracized and forced to live on the fringes of society. with no hope at all

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      Crash

      Derek

      Notice how minors aren’t “protected” from the “adult,” relations that they freely have with each other and the many pregnancies that occur from those relations. Things that occur in the comfort of their homes, among other places. In America, on top of that. Relations that they cannot consent to both by law and the mindset of the people. Relations that their bodies cannot perform, also in the minds of most people. Nor are they protected from parents who get them put on hormones and made to live out as the other gender. Or being taught unnatural things (like there being more than 50 genders, for example) at school nowadays. Then there’s the whole abortion deal. Where minors are not even given a chance to exist in the 1st place. Though, I guess mentioning such things would just mean that a person is being “political” and/or “religious.”

      They can surely be protected, or prevented from smoking, vaping, drinking, and driving. Just not “adult” relations. Nah, that is just too “impractical” in the minds of most Americans. Even when considering the fact that crimes of a sexual nature concerning minors are worse than any other crime in the entire land. People would say that a law banning teen relations would not work, because law enforcement and courts basically have other things to worry about. But parents can lose a son or daughter in a heartbeat if it were found out that he/she smoked or drove a car under the age the allows them to. Law enforcement and some “child service” would be involved quick.

      Banning porn (at least the stuff that appears online), would also be too “impractical.” The same stuff that has led a number of men down a path towards committing SO crimes (the most obvious and likely one being CP) and the repercussions from them. Stuff that people as young as 10 can freely view.

      Let’s say that a man, who had, I guess I’ll say, “genuine” relationship with a 17 year old girl in a state where the bogus “age of consent” is 17, decides to run off with her to a state where the “age of consent” is 18. They go to the other state because the state that they’re in doesn’t allow them to have a se@@al relationship (perhaps a bf/gf relationship as a whole) unless her parents gave an ok. Her parents did not, so they ran off to another state. The man would be made out to be some “predatory,” person and she the “innocent victim” that he will attempt to prey upon. The media would also make her out as a “child” which lawmakers have also done when they deliberately had charges involving illegal pics/videos carry the word “child” on them, even the ones with 17 year olds. Which actually further plays into the blinding ignorance and fear of most Americans. So once they see that word on a TV screen or hear it from a reporter about the man, something will spark in them. Or in some other case, maybe a man who had CP charges only involving a 17 year old. For a small amount of pictures. People wouldn’t even have to know the details, like her age and perhaps her being the only person to appear in the photos, they would be quick to wish evil on him.

      Had the man and the girl robbed a bank together, they would both be at fault and she would also get into trouble. If they had done that, the only thing she would not have been liable for, would be the se@@al relations that she had with the man.

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      Tim in WI

      Some states do not require all lawyer to be a member of the state’s own bar; being a bar member in good standing in another state suffices. Kentucky law requires all state practitioners be “good standing” members of Kentucky’s bar assn. In courts of federal jurisdiction, in Kentucky, their are exceptions that recognizes state sponsored bar assoc in certain case ( mostly instant habeas) from state courts. Kentucky v Padilla was such an instant case, Constanteneau was such a case, but in WI.

      Denial of bar testing is unconstitutional to all but the unionized socialists who by their very nature seek to deny all based upon the evil doing of few.

      Lawyers are no more moral than the general public, furthermore any criminal conviction could be used to undermine credibility, if or when an ex convict did become a member in good standing. In fact some states have special pardons to relieve formally convicted attorneys of the threat. Clear evidence being on the sex offender registry is about affirmative restraint but not safety.

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      Cathy

      2015, My 49 yr old husband has been an art teacher in high schools for years. Never had any issues of being inappropriate in any way. He taught art. As an artist, he saw things in a different way than typical people. He was charged with having three images on a flash drive that was unintentionally taken to school. No child saw or touched that flash drive. He’d never been in trouble. He saw three underage images in interesting poses with interesting lighting. He saved the images to use (clothed) in a future drawing. These were not images of anyone we knew. It’s those same ones allowed on the internet as bait for years and years. You’re just not allowed to look at them. Well, he was told to plead guilty or “never see the light of day.” He pled. He got ten years, lifetime supervised probation, lifetime on the registry and of course, therapy. He told them he has never had any sexual intentions on those images. But, they want to “explore his intentions.” Of course, after he’s done with therapy, they’ll release him and tell him that therapy wasn’t enough. He has to do more therapy on the outside and at cost to me. I’m already filing bankruptcy as I can’t afford on a dollar over minimum wage to support myself. All we want is for him to come home, get a little job with medical benefits and let him go to church with me on Sunday and worship. He’s been told that they may not allow him to go to church. Isn’t this a right, to go to a place of worship? Look at three images and lose everything. He had a heart attack in prison. A diffibulater was put in his chest. He has a bad back and a metal rod in his leg. He’ll be 59 on release, on lifetime probation and the registry. Now, tell me, in three weeks which is all they give him, who will hire this man? He’s an artist. He was an accomplished artist decades before his arrest. Now, when people look at his art, I see their eyes darting around to find some hidden child. You won’t find it. When I talk about my husband, I see people change their expressions without realizing it. They start looking like they’re sucking on a rotten lemon. A very intelligent man, quiet, passive, not wanting to harm a soul, very talented who only wants to rebuild what’s left of his life with is wife and sit by her in church, is now getting looks as if he’s filled with leporsy sores and reeking of dirty trash. Three images on a flash drive. We never owned a white van. We’ve never been interested in spending time with children. We’ve spent the last 5 yrs of our 8 year marriage, apart. We just want to be together, not bother anyone and go to church on Sunday. We don’t have the money to pay for therapy, or any other made up fees. Before his arrest, I had an excellent credit rating, bills paid up, new job, making plans to get a mobile home away from kids. He had just been commissioned by a school official to paint a 10×6 ft painting of mountains for her home. He got it almost done when he was arrested. Someone else had to finish it. He would have made a 1500.00 commission. I’ve got his paintings that he’s still sending home, in exhibitions all over the country. We bring awareness of incarcerated artists. He’s doing this while the powers that be are “exploring his intentions” for those three little images that have been since destroyed back in 2015. Nobody remembers him or why he’s even in prison. But, once the media finds out he’s out, they’ll rip off those bandages and start it all up again. Prior to his sentencing, he’d sat in jail for a year and an a half. He’s written of the things he’s witnessed. People had forgotten about him until his sentencing when one reporter got in the court room, misquoted the prosecutor and plastered it on the internet again the story and what his sentence was. Our lives will not be the same. Why? I can see if he actually harmed a child. I can see if he’d been released and did it again and was put back in. But, this was a first offense of having three images. I quote the prosecutor in his sentencing, “Your Honor, there were no victims in this case.” That’s not the PD that said that. It’s the prosecutor. Yet, he’s got ten years, lifetime supervised probation, lifetime on the registry. A quiet, passive old man who had never caused any trouble and only wants to live what life he has left with his wife and two cats. This man is not a harm to anyone. I recently saw on the local news of a man who got angry at a gas station and beat a stranger literally to death in broad daylight. This man was sentenced to 8 yrs in prison. He took a life. My husband looked at three images of something some unknown person put on the internet. He got the sentence he got. I’ve had to move three times since his arrest. I’ve been robbed, taken advantage of by mechanics to the point of losing the car I’ve had 16 yrs and paid for, had to sell off most of what we have and move to a small studio apartment, had to have my church pay for my deposit to move, had attorneys take money from my credit card when I never signed a paper to retain them, my husband has continued to put out beautiful art work and has to sit in those awful “group sessions” listening to everyone’s horrific childhood stories and tell of what they did to children. It turns his stomach because he’d never do anything like that. He admits he shouldn’t have looked at or saved the images. He’s turned himself around in that aspect. But, to continue to “explore his intentions” just to waste his life, is ridiculous. It will take a long time for him to readjust on release. I’ll have to readjust and go through it with him. On top of all that, he has to find a job, a way to get to the job as I had to sell his car. He has to check in with his P.O. if he wants to take a breath and constantly be traveling to the bowels of the city to register and sign in for every little thing. Three images because of the poses and the lighting. Artist see things differently that typical people. This is a hysteria. Whole families are having their lives ruined. Why can’t years of service in prison be enough? Why does it have to be a lifetime of accountability of where you live, where you worship, IF you worship, where you work, IF you work, mounds of fees for this and that or you’ll be thrown back in? Can’t a man rebuild his life? What happened to doing your time and getting back to life? God forgives, man doesn’t. Jesus told the woman in John chapter 8 when she was about to be stoned for her crimes, he had sent her condemners away. He asked her, “Where are your condemners?” She said they weren’t any. He said, “Neither do I condemn you. Go and sin no more.” Oh, if it were that easy. It wasn’t go and pay fines for life and ask a PO if you can blow your nose on Tuesdays etc. It was simply, ” Go and sin no more.” Oh to have this get all straightened out, if for no one else, for the men who are in for three images who never harmed anyone. Just sayin’.

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      Saddles

      This lawyer thing and these practices can be a bit strange. I would not really trust a lawyer in much or many of these ordeals if you look at the big picture in all this or many of the sex ordeals. I’m sure many lawyers are apauled at much of this registry… I’m sure Janice is and many others. Their are the two words that someone on this earth used and that is “Total aquitial”. All are not the judice prudience of America today. Sure this law ordeal that many go thru can be nerve racking when one side wants to beat up on another. Almost sounds like Democrats and Republicians and those that are busy bodies that want to be greater than the other.

      Yes their are many factors in this game of sex registry. Just like their are many factors in those who have limited or unlimited resources. We’ve all heard the pharse “Let your conscience be your guide so who is guiding in many or much of this game in this type of unjust sudo-prevention”. Sure everybody would enjoy second chances, third, fourth, or what it takes to succeed. Now without going biblical in many of these ordeals… Who gets the victory in the end?

      Sure many are mislead by this sex registry and many are low risk or however those authorities want to classified it. Actually its not all about lawyers its about truth and true justice.

      My public attorney gave up on me. Even the detective that conned me into all this comes to me and says I promise you everything will be alright and yes I loved that wink in his eye in this situation of mine. He knew knew and they can cover up. So who is justified in the end of a lot of this sex registry awkward madness in many or much of these ordeals. Protection is good if it protects but conning in much of this ordeal many face is plain and simple.

      Sure we can all gloat but the principals are still and the facts are still their and the principals outway the fact. Even law enforcement go a bit off line in this principal or who says “Your fired” or get him out of here. So the balance is not their.
      Sure the DA is going to run you over the coals in court even some women will run a man over the coals and use blackmail or whatever it takes in adult situations. Its a shame in society today that we have officers and government that use corrections in many and much of this sex offender ordeal in these wrong ways. Now being proud of acheving somethig is good and NARSOL and the others are getting to the knity greedy of a lot of this registry whorish ordeals by law enforcement if you would like to call them that. And yes even adults can play the tricks in their game of traping to hold it against someone. So who forgives in this game people play? Who offends or defends justice today in America?

      There is always a silver linning to every dark cloud you just have to search for it and speak up.

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      TP

      How did a registrant get into Mexico, let alone live there?! I thought we were banned from entering…

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      Not a SO

      Please! Can someone, anyone explain to me just what the Court is saying in the case of “Smith v Doe, 538 U.S. @ 101-102”? Here, the court is talking about: 1) “IN PERSON REPORTING” to a police agency, and 2) being able to live and work where you want and travel without restriction while on the registry. I have literally asked 21 attorneys here in Texas to explain this to me and SURPRISE! Not one and I mean not one would even answer their email or phone to explain. Is there anyone out with the gonads to do so???

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        Fred
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        Attorneys usually don’t just answer random questions in email for free. Set up an appointment and sit down with them. You might have to pay a consultation fee, but not always. I couldn’t even get an attorney to answer a question about my auto loan contract in email. It’s not because they are biased againsty registrants. It’s because they are attorneys to make money.

        I am not familar with this case, nor do I have any idea which court it is in or how far along it is. If it hasn’t been decided yet, there would be nothing to answer.

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        Fred
        Fred
        Admin

        Oh THAT Smith v Doe. I thought you must be refering to a new case. That case is 20 years old and has been decided by SCOTUS. At NARSOL we consider that ruling to be outdated and based on misinformation. I consider it to be irrelevant. I wouldn’t bother translating anything in it while there are challenges and rulings that already contradict it.

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      citizen

      How did you get out? It seems that immigrating will be very hard after the institution of IML…

    • #68023 Reply
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      Mark

      As a sex offender in FL, I face rejection everyday. Especially from neighbors, police, and jobs. Nobody will give you a second chance even if you’ve done everything correct since your offense. Just got to live your own life nobody cares.

      So your saying Kobe doesn’t deserve a second chance? He seemed to be a great role model and a great dad after his accusation. He was doing great things. And then after he dies you want to bring up his past accusation when he never did anything after that. Why attack him then and not when he could respond. I can understand angry people.

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      Saddles

      Some of us have a lot to apologize about and sure Fred is right about consultation and money fee’s. While apologizes come in many different ways and forms so does rejection. So what is worse. Rejection or someone pulling the rug over one so to speak.

      Sure people going into the service are rejected. One’s that fight for our country. Even government can be crooked at times. This whole ordeal was concieved I believe by this Megan’s law. Now look at it. Its rejection on jobs, rejection where you life,, getting food stamps or social services or whatever but the man issue is the basic principal. Sure we all may bave the right answer. Its just like my sister and me fighting amoungst each other but in the end I’m still her baby brother.

      Remember NARSOL has a goal and so do many of these advocate’s that are fightening for justice or relief in many or much of these callous ordeals and when true justice is sweved the people are happy. Even unrest comes in many different colors but we should all look to helping each other in this whole ordeal and many and much of these comments are good to inspire others to stand up. No one likes to be rejected.

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      d

      Good Luck,

      Make sure you let the rest of us know when you find that country that will let you live free as a normal human being again i am looking for a new home as well F this place!

    • #68288 Reply
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      w

      People are already over-legislated and under-representend. It’s the few that decide to stay that can change things.

      It’s always up to the resistance to form the opposing side of any argument. As long as society keeps being fed one view they’ll only see one side. There has to be equal representation for a just system and that takes participation. Even just commenting on the web or being there for a friend. The help you bring even in the smallest measure is a great deal to a lot of people. Because they are there doing it for you too.

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      w

      Cathy you’ve done well to stick with it. Take stock in what you both have had to suffer through. It is a transformative process, it changes people. For many of them it’s a wake-up call, they are seeing a world they never knew or cared to know.

      Your strength got you this far. It helped you keep your marriage and it helped you find this site. Many people don’t get that far, but regardless the goal is for everyone to keep hope. Even the worst of the worst, people with horrific stories are out there. People have been murdered over their status as registrants.

      The days ahead might get dark but your strength will not fail you even when all else does.

    • #68336 Reply
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      Saddles

      @w. That was nice bit of inspiration you gave Cathy. Being rejected has many pitfalls.Even these leg monitorings are a bit of a tresspass that authorities strap on peoples legs and is a bit of a waste in many ways when they want to monitor peoples wearabouts. Do leg monitorings show any responsiblity to the individual. It is like a modern day camel trying to harness some type of ox in check or rabbit.

      Sure we can all seek representation even for justification in many and much of this sex registry ordeal. How can authorities classify another when their behavior is just as bad or do they strive in overpowing others in these many sex registry schemes. I am sure many of those law enforcement people look at porn or some type of obscene material. I guess who calls the kettle black is a phrase that comes to mind.

      Even my sister never wanted me seek out this NARSOL site after I even mentioned this site to her as she has a better than thou attitude in her own mind and a bit arrogant in her ways also a bit Perry Mason type also. So who is the poor in spirit today. or do we all seek justice on much of these ordeals.

    • #68374 Reply
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      w

      Just trying to bring a bit of optimism to the table. Maybe that changes over time, I see how it would for a lot of people. They didn’t build this whole 290 business to be a fair system. Well not to anyone who’s trying to resist it anyway. But the way I’ve seen it from having to deal with a family member’s conviction it’s a shoddy yet resilient piece of work they’ve built. I say shoddy because for some reason they keep finding “holes” to plug. In truth they’re looking for any and everything that could threaten the system.

      So as the resistance it is people’s jobs to find those cracks. The good thing is the “geniuses” behind the scheme aren’t any better equipped than any of us (save of course time money and resources). It’s ok, their “institutionalized” superiority won’t always win and their victories are cheaply bought anyhow. As the sufferers of the system it is the registrants themselves that win the hard-earned fights.

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      Deborah McMillen

      I just wanted to put my story out there and see what you all think. My LO committed his sexual crime in 1992 at the age of 16 he went into a hotel to rob the place ended up raping the clerk who was maybe 18-20. He came from poverty, mental and physical abuse as well as sexual abuse. Had a mother that was a drug addict and prostitute, he witnessed many occasions of the sexual and beatings of his mother with her “johns” one of them had sexually assaulted my LO at the age of 6. With that being said he was convicted of criminal sexual conduct 1st degree, along with kidnapping and burglary charges. He was sentenced to 30-50 years, at the age of 16! Needless to say this man has spent 27 years behind bars in SC. I feel this was totally unjust and he deserves a second chance! I don’t feel he should have to register when he gets out. Questions or comments greatly appreciated! Thanks

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