Sexual offender residency restrictions: unscientific, wasteful, useless

By Sandy . . . The Missouri legislature is in the process of considering HB2142, a bill that would prohibit anyone on the sexual offense registry from entering or being within 500 feet of any of the nature or education centers controlled by the Missouri Department of Conservation. The stated purpose is for the protection of children who are frequent visitors, with their schools and their families, to these venues.

A great many of the persons who are registered on sexual offense registries are family men and women with children of their own. Many are individuals who have lived in the community offense-free since being punished for a single offense, often many years ago. Research shows that the factors most closely associated with the successful rehabilitation of former offenders are connections to family and community.

In Missouri, parents who are on the registry are already forbidden from taking their children to playgrounds, swimming pools, and museums designed for children’s interests. They are unable to participate in Halloween activities with their own children. They are only able to be involved in their children’s school lives with special permission and under special conditions, permission which may not always be granted and conditions which label the parent as someone outside the norm, causing shame and embarrassment to the children.

This proposed bill would close one more activity to registered parents who know how important it is for parents to be involved in their children’s lives and to engage in activities with them. Closing off every avenue by which these children may participate in normal activities with their parents creates future generations of children who are at increased risk for poor self-esteem and emotional and adjustment difficulties.

This would be bad enough even if this proposed bill would actually help reduce sexual crime against children, but it won’t. Children who are sexually abused are not victims of random strangers or those with whom they have no connection, and these crimes do not occur in public places such as swimming pools, parks, museums, or nature conservations. They are victims of those in their lives, their family members, peers, and authority figures, not by persons on the registry for having committed a previous assault, also most likely against someone in their lives before they were on the registry, and at least half of these crimes occur in the victims’ homes with the rest being in other homes or other familiar indoor settings.

Something must be done to stop the constant addition of post-punishment restrictions for those with sexual crime convictions. They are creating a class of sub-citizens whose chances of successfully reintegrating into society and fully accomplishing the rehabilitation expected by our justice system diminish with each new restriction and prohibition.

And they are for naught. People who already are on the registry are not the persons committing new sexual offenses. Approximately 95% of new sexual crime is committed by those never previously convicted and not on a sexual offense registry.

Missouri’s own research study shows how low sexual reoffense rates are there. The report is long and confusing and does what many do — muddies the waters in distinguishing a re-conviction for any crime from a re-conviction for another sexual crime. One chart in the report, however, makes it clear. For the population being studied and followed in this specific study, which is those released from prison in Missouri between 2003 and 2014 following a sexual crime conviction, the reoffense rates are 1% at 3 years and a tick over 2% at 5 years for those successfully completing the treatment program, and for those who refused or failed the treatment program, the rates are 2% at 3 years, 4 1/2% at 5 years. These figures are consistent with those garnered by state reports around the country, as well as national governmental reports. The chart is here, page 79, the bottom of the three charts.

Why are we wasting time contemplating laws that amount to nothing more than a solution in search of a problem, or rather a solution that does not in any way address the problem it purports to address? The test that must be met for the passage of any law is that it be based on facts and evidence, not on fear and myths. Missouri’s HB2142 fails this test.

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Sandy Rozek

Sandy is communications director for NARSOL, editor-in-chief of the Digest, and a writer for the Digest and the NARSOL website. Additionally, she participates in updating and managing the website and assisting with a variety of organizational tasks.

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    • #68168 Reply
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      Pat Ogilvie

      I feel the registry should be done away with. If not, there should be a registry for every other crime. I would want to know if I had a robber or murderer living next door. Tanks, Pat

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      Saddles

      I will have to agree with Pat in a lot of those viewpoints as so many others on here.Sandy I will have to disagree on these tests, based on fact that man makes or who is alternating one’s ego or consciense or ia law enforcement a bunch of stiff-necked control jerks even government in many cases. So in that case toss the whole bible away. I guess the principals are meaningless today or are police above their maker today. I don’t think anyone needs any scientific proof of that today. What a family does in his or her house is their business. Sure their have been encounters of some type of domestic nature or abusive nature if one would like to say that.

      On the other hand even the person getting wrapped up in this internet type — sucking one in with this teenage bait is a bit much. Sureone can go with fear or myth but their is nothing to fear but fear itself. I believe some president said that. Sure we don’t want to talk about politics because this sex ordesal and laws are not about that but it is about human intervention.

      I don’t even like my sister to interveen in my affairs or business and I have my own personal reason’s on that one. Sure one likes justice but when man wants to control in a controlling factor type way who is the over dog or who’s bark is worse than their bit. So who is true today in much of this registry web of deceit.

      Sure its a shame that anyone caught up in some type or registry ordeal or hands on ordeal is still human or where is the love today in America or who is playing who’s trump card. Much of this ordeal and these restrictions are so unnecessary and I’m sure many on here are sick and dired of being frighten of these law offical control freaks that bend the consciense of others for their vain glory. One wonders who gets the short end of this fear factor. I guess a murderer has more rights than a sex offender or the one with the gun today to be with their families.

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      Emma Greer

      The sex offenders registry is a Waste of Taxpayers monies. It is not a prevention to Save children.

      The registry is destroying people and families Lives. It stop people from being productive and bring homelessness in all Areas.
      Abolish the registry and use the monies to assist offenders in leading a Productive Life.

      God Forgives and Forgets.

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      Bob

      The murder of a 6 year old girl in South Carolina is being linked to a neighbor who was also found dead. Not a registrant and no criminal history. If it turns out he was the one who did it it just proves that these residency restrictions are worthless

    • #68240 Reply
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      Perry

      Vermont and Michigan are getting it right. Missouri, is not and in my view, never will. Here’s why I say this: First, Missouri has a history of being as Segregationist, as nearly all other Southern States combined. Second, The so-called ‘Show-Me-State’, doesn’t do very well at all when it comes to Today’s Enforcement on Today’s Civil Rights Laws. So it stands to reason that The State won’t Do Right when it comes to Registered Sex Offender Restrictions either.
      They’re going to pile it on and pile it on, until they finally rationalize that it’s time for ‘Purging’ away with Human Beings that are on The Registry and in the process, creating the type of Fearmongering that we see only in The Movies and Television Shows that glorify Violence in Horror Flicks. Yes, I said it and I’ll say it yet again: THEY’LL GLORIFY VIOLENCE! Who will such Violence be against? Those of Us on The Registry! The so-called ‘Lawmakers’ that will craft such Laws will argue that: ‘It’s for Society’s Protection of Our Most Vulnerable Citizens.’
      Well what about the potential FOR ONE OF THEM COMMITTING A SEX CRIME? DO THEY SUFFER THE SAME PUNISHMENT AS THE REST OF CITIZENS ON THE REGISTRY? WILL THEY BE RESTRICTED TO WHERE THEY CAN GO AND TAKE THEIR KIDS TO AS WELL? NO, OF COURSE NOT!!!
      Because Back-Door-Deals will be made available to and for ONLY THEM!
      Watch and see.

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      H n H

      Ok, I have to chime in on this. A couple recent articles here on narsol have struck my nerves, this is just one. First off, Sandy? Your post regarding the difference a day on the registry makes needs to be taken very seriously by narsol and every battle it wages. I don’t believe in residency restrictions for those on parole or probation. If you all think that’s a win if it applies only to those on parole, then the states will just blanket every single sex crime parole with “LIFETIME” parole. It’s happened in my state. For every “win” we think we have, the powers that be will find a way to close it. Now, regarding Kobe Bryant? That is a prime example of sheer hypocrisy by those advocating for him being such a hero while having a sex crime that just needs hidden because he’s passed.

      I don’t remember the name of the movie (old B&W) , but I recall a quote by someone referring to congress and the judges that “we have an obligation to find the good in every single person”. Obviously people found the good in Kobe Bryant, and him being a basketball star is the ONLY reason why. If it hadn’t been for him throwing a ball around all cocky he would be on the registry as well. I say this because narsol will never ever accomplish its goal of reforming sex laws unless congress heeds to rational and reasoning rather than what will get them elected next time around. You want to see the laws change? Outlaw lifetime parole, make it so parole may only be limited to a reasonable amount of time, less than what the original sentence was for. Another thing, stop the absurd abuse of emotions in law making by using names to pass legislation …. Jessica’s law, Megan’s law, etc etc. And treat teenagers as if they are humans capable of doing harm. A 14 or 15 yr old girl IS CAPABLE of leading a guy on, she knows what’s she’s doing. And when I hear a story on the news about a 14 yr old stabbing a girl and he’s charged as an adult? What’s good for one is good for another. We have to stop treating 15 yr old hormonal girls and boys as if they’re innocent 5 yr olds being “traumatized” by some sexual situation they instigated and were a part of themselves. It makes me sick that so much of our system of laws is based on greedy da’s and corrupt judges who have a vested interest in making people guilty. People, we need to wake up to the hatred and hypocrisy of sex laws otherwise the vigilantiism, suicides ruined lives and hatred will only get worse. Somehow we need to start getting these issues in front of congress or the Supreme Court. We’re nearly 1 million registrants strong, why aren’t we making waves?

    • #68307 Reply
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      I agree with you. Lifetime parole is an abomination. The best way I can think of to stop legislators from implementing it is for the voting public to quit voting for the legislators who favor it.
      To answer your last question, that is one that we here at NARSOL ask ourselves every day. I think the answer is equal parts apathy and fear.

    • #68341 Reply
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      Saddles

      Whiel I have to Agreee with Sandy and this article in a lot of ways. Yes we as individual people will have to say much and many of these ordeals are wasteful and useless and if you want to go with a scientific route or unscientific. Even data can be mix-matched at times. Sure we were all brought up in school and learned about truth and true Justice but were does it stop in many or much of this sex offender ordeal.

      As Earl mentioned in another article comment post, their are many factors involved in much of this bias or discrimating ordeal. I’m sure no one wants to hit a stone wall with their car. Living is hard enough, finding jobs are hard also. One also has to look at these rules that are stupulated by those in authority so its not a pretty picture.

      I have to believe that true justice is not being served in a lot of many of these offenses and yea its sad. Yes I agree with what Sandy commented about these legislators but after they are in office what is one suppose to do write their congressman or woman. I do not but I do know that a lot of this registry was not well thought out and with Sandy’s article it proves that standing up to all of this is well worth the effort that NARSOL and the team put in in many ways.

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      Saddles

      While Sandy made a great comment we all should take note. Yes lifetime parole is and abomination and so is probation or who is judging. If one does their probation or whatever or jail time and that should be a debt paid in full. This extra burden is a bit of overkill.

      In this registry that is more or less man-made are law enforcement taking it to the extreme with this abominable issue in many cases to protect who? Sure its not about politicians, reliegon, or politics but it is making true justice prevail in many and much of this debauchery or justice or mischarage if one wsants to say that. Truth is truth and their is no between in half truths. Sure this registry puts a lot of heavy burdens on many but standing up for a fellow person that is mixed up in this registry in so many ways is so important and this issue speaks volumes.

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      d

      We pay Taxes on these things if we are not allowed to use them then taxes for these centers should not be taken from us!

    • #68601 Reply
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      Crash

      H n H

      Most Americans are not as concerned about the sexual victimization of women, as they make themselves out to be. So much so, that women (by themselves, or with both men and women as false witnesses and teammates) often lie and/or commit perjury (the act of lying under oath in court) against men, with the lie that a man had either sexually victimized them, attempted to, or gave them the threat of sexual victmization. The sexual victimization of women is even portrayed vividly in TV shows, movies, and porn to excite people.

      Men are falsely incarcerated over hearsay all the time. It could only work in a place such as America, because the people have a “special value” for women and most of those people have a blinding ignorance, fear, hatred, and bitterness towards men who were charged with SO crimes. Only women could make false allegations and comitt perjury about themselves or minors (who also have a “special value,” even more so than women), and the allegations and perjury could only be used against men. Men could not do such things to other men or women nor could women do these things to other women. Unless of course, if they had teamed up with the woman who made the false allegation or false testimony against a man, as “witnesses” who “saw,” or “overhead” something.

      You were spot on about teen females who aren’t held accountable, whatsoever, for the adult relations that they knowingly choose to have with adult men. Relations which they know, would bring serious consequences and damage to the men they’re involved with. Then there are the cases where teen females have lied to men about their age, some point before the sexual relations. One man had committed suicide at 18 or 19 years old, because a girl had lied to him about being 16 (which was the bogus, so-called “age of consent” in that state) when in fact she was 15. She lied to him, then had sexual relations with him. At some point she had blackmailed him (for more sexual relations, I think, don’t remember) and let him know what was to happen to him if people found out.

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      Crash

      Emma Greer

      God does forgive and forget but not the people. The system does not function on biblical principles but rather the feelings, emotions, personal beliefs, and opinions of the people. The “church” is seperate from the “state.” The crimimal justice system, in particularly the court part of it, as well as the governmental system which creates and amends laws, is not concerned with the Bible and the morals that are associated with it.

      The judicial or crimimal justice system and most of the American system as a whole, does not function or run off of the influence of God, being the Great Spirit of truth, love, compassion, mercy, integrity, redemption, justice, goodness etc but rather they function or run off of the influence of Satan and his angels, being the spirits of lies, perjury, hate, judgement, greed, misery, confusion, destruction, and evil.

      If anything, most people do not want the will of heaven on earth but rather the will of hell. They do not want redemption for others, as their is no redemption for them. Whatever wrath, hate, judgment, and bitterness that they feel for SOs, is also upon them by the very same evil forces by which they hold such feelings in the 1st place.

      As I’ve said, the American system as a whole does not function or run off of the influence of God (the Great and Only Spirit of truth, love, compassion, kindness, goodness etc) but off of the influence of Satan and his angels. There’s the corporate world with it’s greed and many lies and deceptions in the media, advertisements, etc. A cruel, dog-eat-dog world where you must do what you gotta do or be homeless and/or locked up (perhaps for committing robberies, burglaries, and or murder to “survive”). As well as a poisonous porn industry, which sickens people from a really young age. Many of which would become the very SOs (mostly male) that people would want destroyed. The very same people who allow such an industry to flourish in the 1st place. An industry which poisons the masses with things that even the minors with whom the same people have a special “concern” for, can freely view as they please. An industry that makes the country billions a year (money makes the world go round, right?). Then there’s the certain laws that have allowed blatant abominations. The system is anti-God (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) and anti-Bible. It runs off of the influence of monsters.

    • #68676 Reply
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      Crash

      H n H

      The thing about Kobe, is that there was a settlement. No one could really say whether he committed the crimes or not. Sadly and sickeningly enough, if he was innocent, he had faced incarceration till the day of his death. The case involved an adult woman, which made it far less serious than any case involving a female aged 17 and under and a male perpetrator.

      In a case such as his, in which there is no solid evidence that a man had sexually victimized (groped, sexually assualted, etc) a woman and there’s a settlement with the woman, some sort of pass could be given.

      As far as Kobe, I guess we will never know whether or not he was innocent. There seems to be sketchiness from both the woman and him.

      Just wanted to put this out there. This was from an article online. It’s quite interesting.

      “Potential jurors were asked in a questionnaire whether they thought Mr Bryant was guilty or innocent. So many of them answered either “definitely not guilty” or “probably not guilty” that the prosecution made a special plea to the judge to (throw out) everyone in those two categories. It is not clear what the judge told the prosecutors in response.”

      Oh and by the way, teen females freely have the “adult” sexual relations that they cannot “consent” to all the time. Very few people would say anything against that. Nor would people try to stop the acts from taking place and prevent them. Though, law enforcement, prosecutors, judges, and some organization like CPS would be quick to stop and prevent both teen females and males from smoking, driving, harming an animal, and commiting a crime. There was a show I watched where a mother said that a prosecutor had called her to inform her that she could face 4 or 5 days (I don’t remember the number), in jail, for every single day that her disobedient daughter skipped school.

      A teen female could break into a home with a man and assist him in robbing the homeowners, yet she would not be seen as an “innocent victim” that didn’t know what she doing or didn’t have the “capacity” to know what she was doing. Though of course, she would be given lesser punishment, as she should, but the both of them would be held responsible.

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      Saddles

      Hey Crash I have to agree with you my man on that comment. All I have on my record is Traveling down to meet a minor and Enticment of a minor which wasn’t a minor at all and they knew that. I wonder who is raping who in many of these safety ordeals . I really thought the DA was to offer the plea deal but it was the detective instead. Talk about saving face.

      Sure safety is good if done in the right way with right principals. Sure show respect when respect is due. I’m sure nobody can respect a person taking advanage of others. We can all comment about factors and this and this but were is truth. Where is respect of person today or should we all be Criminals or how many times has a person been cussed out. or any person for that matter.

      All I’m saying is many or much of this registry is a bit callous and water logged if one opens his or her eyes. Sure we can talk about the back biting and other things or forgiveness or appologizes but much of these ordeals don'[t show any love in this type of preventive justice or can one prevent a virus from happening today. Or did chicken little really say the sky is falling.

    • #68864 Reply
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      Saddles

      Thanks for agreeing with me. Hopefully I have said many things, that are eye-openers. I say what I could on here because there is no where else I could write these sort of things. I also write these things here because they are the types of things that a number of SOs needed to hear before they committed a crime or directly/indirectly put themselves in a position to be falsely accused of one. Knowledge is power and could be used to either save or destroy.

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      Saddles

      Thanks for your feedback.

    • #68906 Reply
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      Saddles

      Crash thats sounds well and good but I don’t want any thanks I’m just here for understanding and to give inspiration. Sure I have a colorful nature and sure I can understand police officers. I even had police officers in my criminal justice classes and they all knew me as I use to be that weekend warior way back when.

      Sure we can all get over this but when you think of others better than yourself than that has meaning and thats words of wisdom right their. Sometimes when everything feels bad and all the pressure builds up in people or your put in a sweat box and yes I have been a sweat box before but I never wanted the green mile but helping others imprisoned by whatever is a value to others. Call it scientific or unsentific but call it compassion.

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      Saddles

      Ok.

      I said thanks because I didn’t think that anyone paid attention to the things I’ve been writing.

      Very few people would have compassion for the incacerated. Especially for SOs. But hey, this is reality. We can’t do much to change it, but for sure we could change ourselves and our future. We could hope for the best and be the best that we could be.

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      Old offender

      One interesting think buried in this is the tiny difference in recidivism between those who successfully completed “treatment” and those who did not. Once again, I question the effectiveness of mandated treatment programs which all too often are nothing but extensions of punishment and the wishes of probation programs.

    • #69380 Reply
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      Saddles

      Old offender are right in many ways as are the others on here. While I did complete my first treatment session class they wanted me to go turu with it again and I wondered why. After the first session they called me in and said we no longer want you to come into these classes considering your religious convictions and understandings. My P.O. plus the instructor and the DA have decided because of your religious background it would be an injustice. One would wonder who calls the kettle black today in this immoral saga in many of these ordeals. I’m all for the banishment of a lot of this registry.

      Old offender truth is truth no matter how you slice it but seems authorities want to override mankind in many ways even with this sex offender jargon in many of these ruses and issues.

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