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Sex offender registries endanger the lives they’re meant to protect

By Miriam Aukerman . . . Our communities deserve effective public-safety measures that are based on facts and sound research, not wasteful and counterproductive measures born of fear. We all want to be safe. We have to demand our legislators pass laws that work and actually keep us safe.

That’s especially true when it comes to sexual offenses.

A Michigan man we’ll call John Doe met a woman in 2005 at a club open only to those ages 18 and up. He didn’t know it when they slept together, but she was actually 15. Today, 12 years later, they are married with two children. But John was also arrested and placed on Michigan’s sex offender registry for the rest of his life.

He has lost countless jobs when employers learned of his status. He’s been periodically homeless, unable to live with his wife and kids. He can’t even attend his own children’s basketball games or see them graduate from high school.

John is not alone.

There are thousands of men and women across the country who have received life sentences — not to remain behind bars — but rather to suffer and endure the stigma and discrimination that follows anyone whose name appears on a sex offender registry.

But things are looking up for John. This month the U.S. Supreme Court left in place a lower court’s decision that Michigan’s sex offender registry law is so ineffective that it is unconstitutional. The Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals not only found that Michigan’s registry treats those on it as “moral lepers,” but also concluded, based on a mountain of evidence, that registries don’t keep people safe.

As the Court pointed out, registries may actually increase offending and have “at best, no impact on recidivism,” probably because they make it so “hard for registrants to get and keep a job, find housing, and reintegrate into their communities.”

Michigan will have now have to rewrite its unconstitutional registration law. The only moral and logical thing for Michigan — and other states — to do is to abolish the sex offender registry.

Why? Well, for starters, registries just don’t work.

The scientific consensus is that registries don’t actually do anything to prevent sex offenses, which means they’re an enormous waste of taxpayer resources. Michigan’s registry, the fourth largest in the country, is bloated, with nearly 44,000 registrants, and growing by about five people every day. There are more than 850,000 registrants nationwide.

Registries are dangerous because they push registrants to the margins of society, making it harder for them to get jobs or an education, find homes or take care of their families. Draconian restrictions mean registrants face years in prison if they to do something as simple as borrow a car without immediately notifying the police. And the internet has turned these registries into modern-day scarlet letters, leading to harassment and even vigilantism.

The good news is that there are effective ways to keep our families and communities safe. We need to focus on prevention and support the critical work being done by sexual assault survivor groups. We need to recognize that the vast majority of child sex abuses cases — about 93 percent — are committed by family members or acquaintances, not strangers, and focus on where the real danger is.

We need to educate our children, not only so that they don’t become victims, but also so they don’t do things, like sending inappropriate texts that could land them on a registry. And we need to partner with the treatment community so that people get the help and services they need to lead productive lives.

It’s possible that the Supreme Court will eventually strike down a state’s sex offender registry law. But we don’t need to wait for the high court to rule on sex offender registries before taking action. Congress should replace the Sex Offender Registry National Act (SORNA), a misguided law that incentivizes states to continue these failed policies, and redirect those resources to prevention, treatment and support of survivors.

Let’s replace our broken registry with a comprehensive system that actually protects our communities. We owe it to our kids.

Source: The Hill

Miriam Aukerman is a senior staff attorney with the ACLU of Michigan and manages the ACLU’s West Michigan Regional Office. Aukerman litigates high-impact cases on a broad range of civil liberties issues, with a particular focus on immigrant rights, poverty and criminal justice. 

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  • #25442 Reply
    Robin Vander Wall
    Robin Vander Wall
    Admin

    By Miriam Aukerman . . . Our communities deserve effective public-safety measures that are based on facts and sound research, not wasteful and counter
    [See the full post at: Sex offender registries endanger the lives they’re meant to protect]

  • #25450 Reply

    Stay outraged

    Having one’s personal AND private info listed Online introduces too much risk and leaves too much to chance.

    It’s unnatural and inhuman to live forever in crisis mode wondering when the next shoe will drop – with new restrictions, requirements or guidelines, along with constantly being subjected to living in fear of something happening to you, you’re loved ones, house, car, etc. You don’t feel healthy if you don’t feel safe in your OWN DAMN HOME.

    Can’t we all agree that there’s no thing as a “safe” neighborhood and that those red map pins on houses will not prevent anything?

    • #25462 Reply

      Brian

      @ Stay Outraged
      Couldn’t agree with you more, not feeling safe in your own home sucks, I’ve been having trouble with some people in my neighborhood throwing things and my home even shooting at my home. So yea it’s not helping anyone but the people who want to harass us.

    • #25457 Reply

      UnitedStatesofOppression

      I feel just how you feel. Will my fiance’s children get harrassed or bullied. What are my parents and extended family going through? Should I buy those extra locks, security lights and cams in case someone feels the need to go vigilant or vandal? Is someone going to turn me in because they saw me walk by a park or shopping in a mall? These thoughts go through my head everyday. What other felons have to feel this way or think of this after doing their time? know what I did and I took responsibility for it. I shouldn’t be punished for it for the rest of my life.

      • #33906 Reply

        Tracy Wallace

        I agree we should not live in fear we should fight back. We should show our government that we are tired of living in fear we should help each other and show love towards others I do not condone anybody having his or her way with a child or any adult they should be punished but they should not be punished for the rest of their life if they will change I am one of those who did wrong and messed with a girl but with God’s help and the state’s help I did changed my life all I’m asking for is a second chance

  • #25467 Reply

    A mom

    The system is so broken. My son was incarcerated in Florida for 8 years. He now faces 15 years of probation. When he recently was released, we assumed he would be allowed to move to Massachusetts so that he would have a place to live, and support. He was not allowed to because I live within 1000ft of a school. You can not see the school, nor would you ever need to drive by it. There are no children in the houses surrounding me. I was lucky enough to find him a home in Orlando, FL, were he lives with 3 other sex offenders. The home was approved. It is smack in the middle of houses which all have children, in a low income family. This makes absolutely no sense to me. He is still unable to speak with his young son or his nephew. The registry is a violation of sex offenders civil rights not only in Michigan but in every state. Yes, my son committed at crime, but he deserves a chance, just like all other people who have committed a crime. He also has the right to freedom of speech and should be allowed to speak with his son.

    • #25488 Reply

      Jeremy from Indiana

      It’s funny you mention “driving by” the school because residency restrictions have no effect on that. I drive by two schools every day on my way to college and I actually step inside a school on occasion for my job. Yesterday, I was stuck behind a school bus letting children off. I also take my kids to the park quite frequently since my area doesn’t prevent me from BEING there. BUT, I had to turn down a house that was 998 feet away from the Boys and Girls Club when I was house shopping. There’s no logic there at all.

  • #25465 Reply

    GraceImburgia

    We do need to educate our children to not become victims and educate men to aware .

    • #25513 Reply

      Maestro

      Grace,

      I want to respond to your comment as well as this one from the article;
      “ We need to focus on prevention and support the critical work being done by sexual assault survivor groups”

      What about the ‘survivor’ mentioned in this article that ended up marrying the man she lied to about her age?
      What about the many other so called ‘victims/survivors’ that ended up marrying their alleged ‘assailants’? How are these people considered ‘survivors’?
      Pardon me but when we keep using terms like ‘survivors’ and ‘victims’ my thoughts are most likely forced to be similar to the thoughts of the public which is: blatant rape victims or small child victims of a molester. I’m not thinking “Oh, a post pubescent teenager sowing his/her wild oats” but that’s EXACTLY what many of these sex offense issues turn out to be.
      The registry was created due to a grown man abducting, raping and murdering a 7 year old girl. The stories of student/teacher that we see on the news almost DAILY in this country have NOTHING to do with abduction, rape or murder. And they damn sure aren’t little pre-pubescent children.
      If the states want to keep their age of consent limits, fine. But they can make it to where those ‘offenses’ are not worthy of being branded for the rest of your life.

      If the people mentioned in this article ended up marrying each other (oh, the poor victim, she’ll never be the same. She’s forever traumatized), then how many other such relationships may have turned into marriage or just a very long term BF/GF relationship had they not been intervened by law enforcement?
      Elvis and Priscilla come to mind as one such illegal relationship that wasn’t interrupted.

      It’s no great big surprise that there ARE young people who simply attract to older people (I myself did when I was younger), even if it’s only “a few here and there” it’s a few in every generation so therefore, with lying teens, naturally horny teens and the well known fact that many older people find it difficult to turn down certain temptations, the laws regarding POST pubescent teen relationships with older people needs to be eliminated from the registry. I can understand if it will still be illegal to be with someone under a certain age but no need to make that older person out to be a great big scary monster for the fear mongering majority of “Law & Order: SVU” binge watchers.

      Also, the mention of “child pornography” insinuates that the “child” is some little toddler or 10 yr old when in fact, the “child” could be 17 and turning 18 tomorrow but the image of nudity of that 17 yr old 24 hours earlier is deemed “child porn”.
      Yet in most states the legal age of sexual consent is 16/17 so deeming their naked images “child porn” makes absolutely NO KIND OF SENSE.

      • #25849 Reply

        Jonny everyman

        No not every minor is a victim but some are.

  • #25466 Reply

    Randy Highland

    I have been on the registry since 2003, for a situation that involved the mother of my second oldest daughter. I was 30, she was 26 and we got ourselves into a situation where she got mad at me and told the police I tried to rape her, when in fact, I didn’t do anything close to that.
    Here I am, fifteen years later. I got out of prison for thst situation eleven years ago, and off parole six years ago. I struggled to find and keep steady employment immediately after prison and I made a decision to become self employed by using construction skills I learned prior to getting arrested. It was EXTREMELY difficult to build my contact network, and over the years, it seemed that for every step forward, I would take two back.
    Fortunately, about four years ago, I got connected with a very reliable contact who knew my situation bit didn’t care because I did good work and had a very good work ethic. A year ago, one of the places this guy would have me do work for got a handwritten letter from an anonymous source that they were using a “dangerous sex offender and I got barred from working for that source again. The guy that sourced me there continued to use me, but didn’t have enough work to keep my afloat financially.
    A year ago, I started sub contracting through another company where I had two family members working and started making very good money. About six months ago, the company got an anonymous letter stating that they were using a dangerous sex offender and that if they continued, they would contact the local tv station that the business did advertising through. After conversations with the owner of that company and his business attorney, they decided to keep me, due to how good my work is and how professional I was working with customers in their homes. Another round of letter were sent to the company, this time through Facebook, but now the owner was getting angry with whoever was sending them and we are looking into ways of backtracking the messages to determine who is sending them and harnessing me and the company I do work for.
    I am pretty successful now, even though someone is out there trying to under cut me by using the registry to “brand” me to the places I do work through. Fortunately, I have A skilled trade that I do very well and I made sure I made myself invaluable so I had a better chance to survive any attempts by “anonymous” ignorant individuals to cause issues or problems in my life.
    I live in Michigan and I was convicted in 2003, so whatever Michigan changes their law to to exclude me from the detrimental 2006 and 2011 changes to the sex offender law will change my status immensely. I wanted to write that even though people judge and go out of their way to try to make our lives miserable, it isn’t necessarily up to them how we live our lives. It’s up to us.

    • #33909 Reply

      Tracy Wallace

      Randy I read your story and I agree with you keep on fighting the good fight you inspired me thank you a friend.

  • #25459 Reply

    Garrett

    It’s hard to believe that the courts are actually coming around and willing to see the facts and not simply writing them off like it usually is for political gain. I guess they underestimated the strength and determination of the amazing people at Narsol.

    Amazing work, you guys.

    Thanks

    • #25850 Reply

      Jonny everyman

      Also as many judges are appointed rather than elected. Many are willing to do the right thing

  • #25468 Reply

    Larry Evans

    yes, I think things will change because the Federal Courts are starting to require these states to produce thr evidance
    that there programs are doing what they say making communities safe and they are failing because the numbers keep
    climbing not from repeat offenders, but because these Laws they pass try to make as many as they can fall under sex crimes and that’s one of the area’s we have to work on they don’t want to give up the “MONEY TRAIN” all these prison
    and Detention Centers they build those are to make a profit from the so called justice system. when i was in counciling
    the Councilor told us after someone ask after we are out of treatment what your suggestions are. she stated we should go to our homes close all the curtins and turn the lights off.don’t draw attention to ourselves, I told her they picked the wrong person i’m going to Live my life as I had planned they were not going to Deny me this Life God provided it not them. but I thank all those who have rational thought and have and are Fighting on our behalf, they too are rediculed just for willing to be associated with this Group THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.

  • #25477 Reply

    Barb Wright

    This is an amazing article, thank you, Miriam. I am at once impressed with the energy and momentum in Michigan and discouraged that we, in Ohio, have not capitalized on it. Although our laws are not identical to Michigan’s, we can use Does v. Snyder to attack the registry laws in Ohio, Tennessee and Kentucky.

    We can, and should, discuss whether there is a sympathetic plaintiff to bring a similar action in those states. And in Ohio, we should springboard on Does to advocate for the Ohio Criminal Justice Recodification Committee recommendations. Among other things, the recod recommendations would abolish residency restrictions, which were central to the decision in Does.

    Our laws are not as broad as Michigan’s, and we “only” have 19,000 registered offenders; but if we don’t fight for our rights, the legislature will make laws more restrictive, like Michigan’s. Like the pending legislation to create a violent offender registry.

    Who will join me in this fight?

    Barb Wright

  • #25484 Reply

    Darrel Hoffman

    Being in Michigan, I can tell you what a nightmare this draconian law really is. It was passed because of a sex offender who was paroled after 25 years in prison and went into our Genesee County area where he kidnapped, raped, and killed four young girls. He claimed he told the Parole Board that he would re-offend again, but they paroled him anyways. Because of that, King John I of Engler, the governor at the time, got draconian laws passed to deny sex offenders parole and set up the State’s registry. Since that time, subsequent governors, like Aunt Jenny Granholm and now, Gov. Nerd (Snyder) have added new restrictions that the 6th Circuit overturned, finally. But many federal judges before this ruling said the law is unconstitutional, only to be overturned by the higher courts. I, myself, was denied re-entrance to Michigan State University to complete my degree because of my “offense” even though I was never accused when I was a student there. I have been fired from a job because of the registry, and had a “preacher” go through my neighborhood with my and my roommate’s profile on his cellphone showing my neighbors. Even though our registry makes that a misdemeanor to take info off the website and publish, distribute, or utter this information, the police won’t enforce it, and we were shamed before our neighbors. We have several that shun us because of this. I have restrictions on me at church as to where and when I can be or not be in certain areas and have been denied good jobs because of this. However, the good news is that God has opened doors for me where I did finish my degree at Wayne State University in Detroit and the City Itself hired me as a clerk in its finance department, and they do know about my “offense”. I’m also the organist at my church and well respected and loved. Most of my neighbors accept my roommate and me and actually were very incensed with the “preacher” who came around to shame us. Why have these things worked out for me? It’s because those I am around see my everyday life and conduct and know that such offenses are impossible for me. Michigan’s Criminal Sexual Conduct law is the most heinous and unconstitutional laws in the country, because it doesn’t require any physical proof of a crime, but the testimony of a victim. It’s up to the jury whether or not they believe the accused or the accuser, and if that accuser is a child, you’re going to prison even before you enter the court room, because all the prosecutor has to establish is that the accused had opportunity and the “victim” said so. That’s how I got hooked up in this. Many take plead bargains, because if you don’t, the prosecutor promises you a very long sentence (15 years first offense) and the parole board, as already mentioned, denies parole, so you serve the whole time. There is no good time in Michigan’s prison system. King John I of Engler abolished that as well. So, although this is a major victory for us here with the Supreme Court upholding the ruling from the 6th Circuit, we’re not out of the woods with a draconian lock-them-up-and-throw-away-the-key mentality of a Legislature that will do anything it can to restore this law as it was. Our fight isn’t over.

    • #25526 Reply

      Tim P

      While as stated the fight is not over, the writer is wrong; Michigan does have to change the SOR laws as they are written now. This will not happen over night but it will happen. The ACLU of Michigan has been a long supporter of doing away with these laws or at least writing laws that do make sense.

      • #25531 Reply

        Tim L

        Welcome to the police state our founders were concerned about developing. At this point America is not so different from British crown rule of old. Agents engagement’s in unreasonable search & seizure and civil asset forfeitures used to promote public safety that in no way actually achieves the aim. We were founded on the basis of individual liberty and not group think! Our founders rebelled and so should we!

    • #25530 Reply
      Fred
      Fred
      Admin

      NARSOL is always looking for success stories from registrants like you, who refuse to be beaten down and controlled, at https://humans.narsol.org

  • #25485 Reply

    NH Registrant

    I live with an elderly parent and am on SSI. I only get $700 a month to live on. I couldn’t afford to live anywhere else. And, thanks to the registry, once my elderly parent passes (hopefully not for a long time), I’ll be a disabled homeless person! I won’t last long living on the street with my health conditions. So, the Registry is a death sentence for me. I can’t get into a shelter if I become homeless. I can’t get into low income housing. And NO roommates will want a person on the Registry living with them. I couldn’t even begin to be able to afford an apartment with only $700 a month and expect to be able to feed myself on the $19 a month that the state of NH gives me in food stamps.

    So, once my elderly parent passes, I’m doomed – literally.

    • #25533 Reply

      Stay outraged

      Almost same exact situation you’re in which is a dead end life.

      Set up to fail. Compliance or jail. Witch hunted all the way to hospice as long as I remain on American soil.

    • #25656 Reply

      Tim L

      NH Registrant
      Please sir reach out to other NH registrants to find a roommate. I am sure they are out there looking for a place to call home. You do not need to be alone. The DOCs are looking for appropriate places for placement. I think you may be able to work out a deal where the state pays you to do so. My prayers are with you.

  • #25494 Reply

    Jane Smith

    Where do I begin? Where a slew of police cane rushing in my front door with assault rifles and a warrant to search my house a couple of years ago?
    My son was forced to take the prosecutors offer, there isn’t any fighting a CP charge ( having pics of someone apparently under 18 on his computer) I was horrified to see how the stigma alters their lives almost to an unbearable point. The person I work for had a son that was charged with a similar offense, the young man ultimately could not take being rejected from 35 plus jobs and living in his mothers basement so he took his life. That made me do all I could to set my son up for success after prison. I bought a secluded house away from neighbors, I’m keeping his car payment current so he will keep his credit up while he’s away plus he will have a car. I’m doing anything I can within my means to see that he has a life. The registry has to go it does much more harm than good – it’s like the Salem witch hunt only modern day.

  • #25500 Reply

    Tim

    Barb, I live in Ohio and would love to join your fight for our freedom. Maybe we could pull our resources together to hire a good attorney willing to take on these laws. The more people willing to get together in their own state, the more of our voices get to be heard. Doing this as a group with everyone contributing to the ” lawyer fund” makes the cost of attorney fees a lot less than 1 person trying to foot the bill. How many times have we all said ” if I only had the money to hire a good attorney”. Unless your wealthy this is a common saying. By bringing the resources together by many people makes more sense and more likely to get a move on this long over due action. So Barb, count me in and I hope many more Ohioans are willing to step up to the plate for your own freedom. Someone has to get this started and Barb made the first move. Let’s quit talking and wishing our lives were different lets come together to make it happen. The more people standing together the better chance we have at getting something done. Can
    someone at NARSOL help us get connected so we can talk please?

  • #25509 Reply

    patricia win

    In Maryland, two of my sons are on the registry. One was falsely accused many years ago. The girl came from a very dysfunctional family and my mentally ill son was “in love” w/ this child’s older sister who was a prostitute and drug addict. The girl’s grandmother gave the child the “idea” to falsely accuse him because she was jealous of his taking her big sister’s attention away from her. There was no other “evidence” than this girl saying this and it has really ruined my son’s life, who never had anything but a parking violation on his record at age 35. The girl grew up, told the truth to an ex homicide commander from PG County and gave my son’s lawyer the story in a deposition. The Baltimore States attorney refused to come to this and he STILL has this on his record. It’s a horror. He’s become a seclusive, paranoid man who refuses treatment and has withdrawn from family and life.

    My other son at age 30ish had sex with a 15 yr. old prostitute who lied to him (and the police) about her age. She looked/acted older but that didn’t matter. When she came to court, she looked her age and the states attorney was out for blood. This son has a 7 yr. old boy who he has full custody of (clearly my son is an idiot about his choices of females but the boys’ mother is an adult…just an extremely immature one). This has affected my son (and I worry all the time about it affecting my grandson) even though he’s doing a very good job as a father.
    These laws are so extreme. I hope that people will wake up to the wrongs of a life-time registry and how giving someone a FELONY when there is no physical harm is crazy. The girl told the police she was with my son voluntarily.

  • #25514 Reply

    Arax

    Thank you Miriam Aukerman. Very well put. That is the truth. Every citizen of this country should have their constitutional rights exercised, that includes sex offenders. It’s so hard to hear everyone’s plight but like some of you mentioned, you have to live your life as best you can and never give up!

  • #25521 Reply

    Saddles

    The use of the term “moral leapers” amused me a bit. Yes I got involved in an internet sex sting operation. I also got deceived a bit, used a potty mouth, was given an opportunity by those who suppose to protect and serve. Sure I asked for no sex and went down there. Since we were meeting in a park and in public I still had thoughts to back out which I did but was persuaded otherwise or pressured if one can say that. I remember the person saying were meeting in the park what could happen. Well if I hadn’t gone down their they were gonna come and get me as the investigator said to me. Now police are suppose to do good but presenting an opportunity such as this is a bit uncanny to say the least.
    Now if I hadn’t gone down their I wouldn’t of known what would was really going on.
    So here’s a question for all should a minister of God give a diabolic opportunity such as this and play the harlot to snare one up in all this when they are suppose to do good, even after questioning why the person was in an adult chat room..

  • #25538 Reply

    Jo mine

    Wonderful!

  • #25561 Reply

    Rajendra

    It’s time to do away with these draconian registry laws and not replace it with SOR 2.0

  • #25578 Reply

    Arch Dempsey

    I am always glad to see your posts and to know the hard work and efforts you and others like you have put forth to help those on the registry.
    I remember the first time I met you in Lansing many years ago. You are a fantastic person and I am very amazed at the success you have achieved so far. I would never have believed any success was possible all those years ago and I know that real positive change may be many years away yet but it is good to know you have not given up..

    Thank you

  • #25580 Reply

    Donna

    When I read a comment by someone who mentions a registered person and suicide I am so totally saddened. I understand the depression, sadness and pain, feelings that nothing will ever get better, but they surely will. Little by little progress is being made, All of us must remain connected to someone that can make us feel good about ourselves even if we struggle with hopelessness. Getting on the calls every month can help and hoping to see a big turn out for the Halloween Marathon call. I myself cannot think of a better way to spend the evening.

  • #25585 Reply

    Merle

    Miriam, thank you for your work on creating fair laws which directly affect so many lives. I’m wondering if there is anyone in Illinois working on the same issues?

  • #25600 Reply

    Lacy fankhauser

    I am from des moines iowa and I’m married to a sex offender who shouldn’t even be on the registry his ex-wife lied in court and with this even being up and around she can harrass him and hurt him in any way I don’t like it and could runie out life not only that he can’t even have anything to do with his kids. He’s on it for life

    • #25665 Reply

      Tim L

      Believe it or not Lucy your hubby is not the only registrant who was factually not guilty. Unfortunately in our nation it is a reality. Head on over to http://www.innocenceproject.org and http://www.wrongfulconvictinsblog.org to read up on options.
      Who benefits from making felons out of those whom are not? This is a cost not mentioned in the mountain of evidence presented to the court and inferenced in this article. Believe me when I say the ripple effect is enormous on tax receipts and under employment. 20 trillion and counting up! BTW FYI every child born into the US today’s begins life with a tax burden of nearly 100K.

  • #25663 Reply

    Tim L

    That mountain of evidence was quite a read. All of this nonsense just so the feds could use computers and databases to monitor the general population. You read me correctly. The Whetterling act was the first scheme in our nation to permit domestic electronic surveillance by the government. That is what was at stake in Alaska v Doe. This is the reason it was at first applied to in the words of J.P. Stevens ” them and only them”.

    What would have happened if in 1994 the government had announced their plans to monitor the domestic population via electronic means. I suggest they would have been run out of town. When I attended high school in the 80s Orwell’s 1984 was required reading as was Machiavelli’s Little Prince.

    We read stories of FBI taking over websites like Playpen ( see EFF.org) for the purpose of protecting our most vulnerable. In order to catch criminals we must act like them. What a crock! IMHO our police forces have a fetish for hero scenarios. The FAST AND FURIOUS scheme undertaken by ATF is an example where it back fired leading to the death of one of their own. Who’s head roles over that one No one!

    The same unaccountability occurred when James Clapper outright lied to Congress concerning NSAs use of the prysm program to surveil and collect information on millions of Americans. Too deep to fail.

    In summation, these databases are and always were intended for political security as much a public safety. God save us!

  • #25677 Reply

    Wes gray

    And how many of our children have killed themselves only over the threat of the sex offender label stigma, and registry. How many of our children have to die? The witch hunt must stop and we must stop it. Demand justice and rational laws now. Support these innocent children and their families.

    • #25848 Reply

      Jonny everyman

      Wes do you hail from the Pacific northwest?

  • #26046 Reply

    Bill

    About 1% of the sex offender population qualify as “true predators”; most sex offenders are family or friends of family, this is what a sex offender therapist told me. I’m just glad the case was won; I was convicted in 1991. I will continue to report until I receive a letter from the state police. They were so good at sending letters previously; they shouldn’t have any problem sending them now(sarcasm). Has anyone heard about Shuette giving the orders to send out letters? Anyway, thanks to all of those that contributed to the case.

  • #26051 Reply

    Bill

    Does anyone know the statistical data on how much this registry has cost the taxpayers?

  • #26482 Reply

    Bobby

    I have a quick question for anyone willing to answer, since SCOTUS, denied Snyder and upheld the 6th circuits decision, and Michigan now has to revamp the registry, WHY do Michigan registrants have to register since it was found punitive/unconstitutional.

    I guess what I am trying to say is we shouldn’t have to register since the 6th circuit decision was upheld, I understand that the Michigan Legislature now has to make changes, but while those changes are being made to comply with the ruling we as registrants, should not be forced to continue to register, because many of us will be removed automatically and a lot will be close to their end dates, like when Megan’s law was in play. I don’t see the point to registering, until the final changes are made. just my opinion. I hope I said that clear enough to understand. Thank you in advance.

    • #26486 Reply
      Robin Vander Wall
      Robin Vander Wall
      Admin

      Bobby,

      While we understand your frustration, your question requires a legal answer and we’re not in position to provide that. You need to contact an attorney in Michigan.

  • #26637 Reply

    Mom

    If the Supreme Court has ruled Michigan’s sora unconstitutional why are they still allowed to give that sentence.

    • #26645 Reply
      Fred
      Fred
      Admin

      The Supreme Court didn’t rule anything on Michigan’s law. They simply denied the state’s request to be heard, which effectively upheld the 6th Circuit’s ruling that found this law unconstitutional. ACLU and Mighigan Legislators are working together to rewrite the law so it complies with the 6th Circuit’s ruling. In the meantime the current law is still in the books and can be enforcd. It is very important that all registrants continue to comply until they receive official notice that the changes have been enacted.

  • #27597 Reply

    Ann

    Bobby,
    I too am on the Sex Offender list. However, I’m not complaining about having to remain compliant until the law is rewritten. And I’m one of them who went from 25 yrs to lifetime registration under the 2011 changes. But I guess I’m wondering why you’re not wanting to comply until the new law is written? I’m sorry, but as a parent as well, that concerns me. If you don’t want to be seen as a threat, or a concern to the public, then I would think that you would have no problem complying with them until the law says we no longer have to.
    I’ve been out since April 2003, with a successfully completed parole with NO violations at all. I was falsely accused. However, I’ve learned that it really doesn’t matter if I did it or not. Either way, I was placed in the third tier. I wasn’t labeled violent or a predator. And yet I’m lumped in with them. And even though I’m thrilled that the Court found in our favor, we aren’t doing ourselves any favors by not being compliant before the new law is written.

  • #29916 Reply

    Karen J Knoll

    Revisions to the unconstitutional laws of the sex registry seem to be in a stale mate in Michigan. Literally thousands of people that are NOT criminals are on this list. I want to know what the holdup is in making resolution to the laws. many people on this registry are caught up in an ex post facto situation. Public shame, ridicule, and monetary costs that have been ruled as unconstitutional by the Federal Courts are being ignored by the state of Michigan and other states. What is the hold holdup? How can we get our government to speed up this wrongful situation? I have written to my congressmen several times, and have been ignored/ or given a “pat” response like it’s in the works. Time to make things right for so many people. Everyone seems to want to make money on this issue, including attorneys!!!

    • #29929 Reply
      Fred
      Fred
      Admin

      @Karen

      NARSOL’s affiliate in Michigan and the ACLU are working with Michigan lawmakers to bring the law into compliance with the 6th Circuit Court’s. ruling. They expect to have that finalized sometime in 2018. They fully intend to file a lawsuit and force the state to comply, if they feel that they are dragging their feet or are not completely complying with the ruling. So far the word is that Michigan legislators are cooperating and progress is being made to implicating the required changes.

  • #35858 Reply

    Antonio Santiago

    I understand all your points, many are valid and people can falsely accuse others, BUT, the reason the sex offender registry cannot be outlawed is that our children as well as ourselves have the right to know who has been labeled a potential risk to their life, for their own safety. We too should have the right to know who could hurt our children so as to not to attract those people into our lives.

    But many modifications to the laws are needed as well. Falsely accusing should be criminalized and punishable by jail time so that on one has the right to or desire to falsely accuse another. Also, if a minor admits that she lied about her age and/or lying about age can be proven in court then the accused should not be punished at all.

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