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Breaking the ‘frightening and high’ myth

David Feige of Untouchable fame brings us a new film. This one is short, only a little over eight minutes. Titled “A ‘frightening’ myth about sex offenders,” the video is posted in the New York Times‘ Opinion section and referred to an an “Op-Doc.” You can also read David’s written analysis accompanying the “Op-Doc.”

It traces the “frightening and high” statement from its origins, with comments from the writer of the original article in Psychology Today that it was never intended to mean what it has been used for years to mean. It then comes forward, with study after study showing actual recidivism rates and includes a variety of persons prominent in the field discussing what the facts show about the issue.

This topic contains 53 replies, has 4 voices, and was last updated by  Fred 2 days, 7 hours ago.

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  • #21579 Reply

    Saddles

    Excuse me Donna & Jerry, yes I agree that would be great and yes I can send Ten dollars as I’m sure everybody else can I’m sure and its worth a try but that would be like winning the lottery. Sure I would love to see everybody get a fair and truthful break with this unbearable law.
    Of course there is also ups and down’s to everything. I’m not saying that it isn’t a good idea. I’m just saying that their are others that will try and, as they say,” Trump” up things like this lady in Colorado that wants to appeal this decision plus we all need someone to go to bat for those under this sex offender that also know this thing first hand. In other words one has to walk thru the fire to put out the flames so to speak. The idea is good and I’m sure that Women against the registry can also team up with NARSOL.
    This would also be a biblical challenge too for the court systems. Keep in mind that we have a President that seems to be putting his foot down for the people but seems to be antagonizing in a certain as the presidents word seems to be a bit stressing as we all seek for peace and an end to this sex offender issue but its the human factor behind it.
    Two wrongs don’t make a right, I’m all for it and I’m sure others will agree that the sex offender is no different than the next fellow.. Do a study on mayor’s caught up in all this plus a few politicians and you’ll find out some truth to all this BS.

  • #21543 Reply

    Donna

    I must be missing something with the issue of Federal Funding. If funding stops for registry related costs how does that affect funding for other programs. Something is wrong here as we all know. Lets not speculate on what could happen but focus on reality. Where are the 800,000 + registrants in this country and why are they not all NARSOL members? We need money to fight this and its not falling from the sky!

    • #21570 Reply

      jerry

      I agree wth you Donna 110%. First off I am a member. If we’re to get this done we need all 800,000 plus citizen offenders to donate and become members. If all 800,000 gave just $10, it would amount to 8 million dollars that our attorneys could use to get realistic results. Just $10 whew!

      • #21573 Reply

        Fred
        Keymaster

        It would be wonderful if all 800,000 registrants could get on board with NARSOL. Let’s start by encouraging the people we know to get involved with NARSOL as members, volunteers or donors, and not just registrants, but anyone. Those efforts are what helps us expand and reach more registrants and their family members throughout the United States who otherwise would have no idea that NARSOL is here advocating and fighting to restore their rights while informing the public and our lawmakers of the facts.
        I recommend everyone get familiar with the information on this website, by browsing the tabs on the top menu, and especially look at the “Get Involved” information.

        • #21731 Reply

          Kendal

          Well, the problem is, NARSOL, bless their actions, are reaching out to the people who are unemployed and homeless due to the laws that NARSOL is trying to remedy. I know there was a time when I was living in my car, that 10.00 was the difference in eating for a couple of meals, or not eating.

          That being said, I did sign up, and did send in my money, and I can send in another 10.00 now, and I may do that in a couple of days.

          Just saying as much as most people on the list appreciate what you are doing, most of them are dead broke.

        • #21735 Reply

          Fred
          Keymaster

          What you said is exactly why I said encourage anyone to get involved with NARSOL, not just registrants, because a large chunk of those who are registrants are struggling to survive. We can hardly expect them to make time for an organization or donate what little money they have if they are not comfortable doing so.

          It would be wonderful if all 800,000 registrants could become NARSOL members, but it is not realistic. However, whether they can become paying members or not, we would like to reach them and let them know we are here, fighting on their behalf. NARSOL is advocating for all registrants in the United States, even the ones who never heard of us.

          There are lots of ways to be involved in our cause. That is why I think it would be a really good idea for people to read the information on this site and learn what NARSOL actually does and learn all the different ways they can get involved in our cause and help move our mission forward.

          NARSOL is reaching out to everyone, whether they are registrants or not. It does us no good to fight to restore rights of registrants if we don’t also work to change public opinion towards those registrants. Our donations do not just come from those on the registry, but also from family members, friends, legal and mental health professionals, and even people who have no connection at all to the registry, but are just genuinely concerned, because they see how wrong these laws are.

          This is not a battle of just registrants against everyone else. We have a lot good people with us, some who are registrants and some who are not registrants. We all believe in fair and constructive laws and standing up to oppression. We are confident that if we work together we will be successful in achieving our goals to bringing change to these oppressive laws.

  • #21479 Reply

    Brian

    I believe that the Pa a Supreme Court said SORNA violates the law then SCOTUS will see it the same. It violates the constitution of the United States and they shill out all the bs about Recidivism. I was convicted in 97 and haven’t comited sex offense sense then 20 years later yea big recidivism rate, on top of it all it was my girl friend who lied to me about her age. She went to the health department to get a pregnancy test and they asked how old her boyfriend was and from there the DA charged me with sex assault of a child, I was urged by my public defender to take a plea bargain, I recently get my court transcript and it clearly states the court does not recommend me to register as a sex offender but made me pay the sex offender surcharge of 1000 bucks and stated if the probation office requires me to register than I do. I don’t remember 20 years ago that my PO said I had to register. I now need to get my probation records to see what my requirements were. Good luck to us all and keep your heads up and stay positive about this.

  • #21439 Reply

    Saddles

    Breaking news. Well Trump already said it, we are all created equal . And yes he did say we are all made the same. He opposes hatred, bigotry, and racism. So is our character all the same? That would be a question after one completes his or her sentence. I honestly don’t think a lot of people on the registry should worry too much. Sure we all go thru trails in life. Sure my potty mouth got me into a bit of trouble. Sure I submitted to governing authorities by going down there but when someone manipulate one into all this by going days just to snag someone thru these types of encounters something is wrong in Denmark. Remember who posed this first regardless if you were on an adult site as some were.

    I would rather have NARSOL fight for us all than go it alone but we all can do our part in all this sex offense jargon and that’s thinking of others like the kids some of you all have and the broken families because of all this crap. Being homeless is no way to live in America. Do I hear those flutes playing in the background … lol

  • #21425 Reply

    William H

    Snyder vs Doe (Michigan) goes to SCOTUS Conference 25 September ’17. God only knows what the decision will be. The State (Government) is still relying on DOJ and Alaska’s 2003 Smith v. Doe recidivism rates. They’re using outdated data as to be expected: After 5 yrs – 14%, 20 yrs – 27%.
    On the other hand, John Does 1-5, Mary Doe (Defendants) recidivism statistics are spelled out on pages 18 – 19 (Doe v. SNYDER). Statistics vary by offenses, age, time and actuarial data (and more). Some as low as 3%, which is unquestionably lower than serious crime recidivism.

    But Michigan has also stated that losing, would cause a loss of Federal Government money for existing SORA programs (real justice). That list goes on. Would be interesting to see the defendant’s (Does/Mary) win by any margin.

    What’s concerning; for SCOTUS to rule in favor could potentially cause an eventual defunding of billions of dollars worth of tax dollars. Money used to fund prosecutors, law enforcement, correctional facilities, ad nauseam. There’s the issue !

    I don’t see a light at the end of the tunnel yet, but I am more encouraged today than yesterday. Again, God only knows what may become of this.

    • #21441 Reply

      Maestro

      “What’s concerning; for SCOTUS to rule in favor could potentially cause an eventual defunding of billions of dollars worth of tax dollars. Money used to fund prosecutors, law enforcement, correctional facilities, ad nauseam. There’s the issue !”

      If the federal government won’t help fund states just because we get rid of something that has only been around for 20 yrs (the SOR) then that sure sounds like a blackmail type of bribery to me.

      • #21576 Reply

        jerry

        What the supreme court did with this misinformation, between the legislative, executive, and juditial branches of our government at the expense of many innocent people associated with sex offenders, family and friends, is scanadalous. Pure and simple and they all should be ashamed of themselves as representing justice, when that justice is fraudulent because of that misinformation. of 80% frightening and high.

      • #21444 Reply

        Robin
        Keymaster

        The Supreme Court doesn’t give a piss what it costs this or that agency or state or whatever. That is never a concern or consideration of the Court. Congress has no other recourse in its approach. So-called “unfunded mandates” were held unconstitutional in the 90s. Congress can no longer require the states to do anything that may cost them money. So, Congress takes a different approach these days and threatens to withhold money from popular funding mechanisms in order to get the states to do what Congress desires. This is a bit like what I’ve seen in my friends’ marriages. Sure…you can do what you want. But, there WILL be a cost for it.

        • #21457 Reply

          H

          Isn’t what Congress is doing known as “Extortion”

          Definition:
          noun
          “the practice of obtaining something”, especially money, “through force or
          threats. “

  • #21395 Reply

    Txso4life

    If you people have not notice, both Michigan and Fed’s reply briefs to Snyder case, currently pending in scotus, repeatedly cited the false frighten high recidivism rate poses by sex offenders! And our attorney has failed to counter that argument, which in turn will only be a disaster for our cause. I can not believe the government’s lawyers will lie through their teeth with the recidivism data. Unless we can find a way to forward this video to the attorney representing the Does in Snyder case, we are screwed!

  • #21379 Reply

    William M. Hart

    I have forwarded this video link to members of my family and what few friends I have. I asked that they take time to watch it and consider donating to NCRSOL. I also asked that they consider forwarding the link to any of their friends that can think for themselves. Most of us in the “community” have been aware of this information for years. The average person has no concept of the importance of a Supreme Court Justice. Maybe, this video will shed some light on how important the choice of a Supreme Court appointee is and how the appointee should be able to work through a process. Justice Kennedy’s opinion and consequently most of those that followed were outcome based decisions. In other words, they decided what they wanted the outcome to be and then crafted an opinion to support that position.

  • #21361 Reply

    David Israel

    At one point in my life in South Florida, my Probation Officer required me to move out of the house I’d been staying in (illegally) and go to a trailer park which was literally on the wrong side of the tracks, and looked like a post-apocalyptic horror. Yeah, sure, I was violating city code by living 110 feet too close to a school… but my being there wasn’t harming anyone.

    I’ve lived in the back of the church, on the living room floor of the pastor’s house, and spent much time homeless, simply because of these restrictions. The areas that were ok? Warehouse districts. The wharf. Vast tracts of undeveloped land. Oh, yes, and a street of houses that isn’t there anymore; there’s a golf course there now. I guess I could’ve set up at tent at the eighteenth hole…

    I have drafted an argument which, if successful, will not only expunge my own conviction, but would impact tens of thousands of people across the United States by expunging their convictions as well. My problem is a lack of funding to do further research on this issue and to hire competent legal help. After seeing this video, I’m going to build a website around the proposed argument (with a place for people to comment/help), and then come back here & post it.

    There is no “bank robber registration” nor a “drug offender registration,” as far as I’m aware. There are absolutely no studies showing that registration is effective, even for law enforcement. The powers that be MUST be called to task and use the ACTUAL data to re-draft the laws.

  • #21366 Reply

    Maestro

    “I’m appalled that this could happen. This was not my intent”

    Well then Robert Longo should have kept his mouth shut back in 1986 or whatever the year was.
    Haven’t we learned years ago that the average person takes things out of context and starts what are called “rumors”?
    If I tell a person that I got an HIV test after sleeping with someone that I later thought was questionable, and that person tells someone else and that someone tells someone, by the time is gets to the 4th or 5th person, I’ve gone from getting and HIV test to having full blown AIDS.
    Haven’t we LEARNED about RUMORS?
    News and other informative arenas have always and should have always been VERY CAREFUL as to how they word things they are trying to say.
    Some people skip through paragraphs when reading articles, some people focus on PART of what a newscaster says LIVE ON AIR, and the reader/viewer’s MISINFORMATION then gets spread around like wild fire.

    What was the point of this article back in 1986 anyway? There was no Megan’s Law and there weren’t any laws restricting people of where they could live or even eat for lunch (McDonald’s, etc).
    We seemed to do just fine BEFORE all these laws, we can do just fine again.
    Also, I’m really sick of the term “sex offenders” as if every person is a habitual offender. How about “people who committed a sexual offense”. To call someone a “sex offender” with a 1 time offense is like calling someone a “smoker” after he/she takes the one and only puff of a cigarette and nearly chokes and never touches a cigarette ever again.

    My offense was 12 years ago. I am NOT a “sexual offender”, I broke the law 1 time with a teenager. I did not and do not have a harem of underage teens as my concubines. Therefore, I am not a habitual sex offender.

    But I am a smoker. Very heavy smoker actually. If that were an offense, I’d be on death row the way I smoke.

  • #21355 Reply

    Keith Krehbiel

    It is encouraging to see such ideas expressed but discouraging to recognize that the Republican controlled government currently treats facts as propaganda and rumor and innuendo as truth.

    • #21443 Reply

      Maestro

      Don’t just come down on the Republicans because the Democrats don’t give a damn about us either. They’re the feminists who get offended when the wind blows and cry “rape culture”. How could you possibly believe that a political party that believes there’s a “culture” to raping women would give any f*cks about us?

      Keep in mind that it was democratic Obama who signed the international Megan’s Law so we can’t ever go on a vacation and see the world before we die

      • #21518 Reply

        Donnie G

        If I live another 100 years I’ll never understand these whiny a$$ RSO types who cry about being ostracized and hassled. Yes it REALLY stinks living like we have to but (for me), I know I did my crime (1991) and I’ve lost everything you can lose but in the end I did it to myself. I did the only thing you can do, plug along and don’t expect to get the life back I had before. It Ain’t comin’ back!

        • #21521 Reply

          Fred
          Keymaster

          With that attitude, it definitely isn’t coming back for you.

  • #21326 Reply

    Saddles

    This is a solicitation of assault in exchange for money,” the judge said. “That is not protected by the First Amendment.”
    Talk about some news via the internet. This dude wants to put out a bounty for a strand of someone’s hair. Another that is just as tacky is some teenager is expelled from school for having over-sized boobs or whatever they trend it today.

    Guess that teenager is sticking out just a bit against school policy. Sounds like an attempt for someone to accost her in high school or junior high whatever the case may be. Talk about tight fitting jeans. Oh well different strokes for different folks.

    I think the main point is to get rid of anything even suggestive of sex even though the police still pander these sex sting operations on the internet which is going against their lie just to accost another in their web of deceit, but how can one accost another on the internet without suggesting it first.

  • #21323 Reply

    W John – AR

    I am not an SO, but someone very close to me is and the unconstitutional continued and draconian measures to ostracize even the innocent entrapped by law enforcement is deplorable. The reasoning behind these measures is to:
    1) Support the prison for profit industry.
    2) Allow law enforcement to torment not only the SO, but anyone defending them socially.
    What I don’t understand, is after viewing that short movie; action has not been taken to the SCOTUS to point out their decisions based on fictitious information. Present the facts and correct all the wrongs that have been perpetrated upon so many people and their families.
    Courage, in the legal community is needed. Lawyers either willing to just “phone it in” in their daily lives will not help. Lawyers with political aspirations are not going to help, for to support reformation of Sex Offender laws is a certain career killer.
    But a dedicated TEAM of young, but seasoned, thoughtful and courageous attorneys armed with the facts, truth and constitutional education can right some of these wrongs by scheduling PUBLIC judicial committee congressional hearings. Expose the facts and force congress and Americans to listen to the truth. Then using the ballot box, elect those representatives willing to do the right thing. Time is the enemy, the longer these unconstitutional laws are allowed to exist, the more engrained they become in the consciousness of an unwarranted hysterical society.

    • #21455 Reply

      Jonny everyman

      I’ve always felt some criminal defense attorneys don’t care to see the registry gone. Gives many of them business. Go to any cda website and they love to throw the word “avoid the registry” out there even when they can’t keep you off it.

  • #21313 Reply

    Paul

    SO LAWS MOVIE/DOC

    Home Page

  • #21315 Reply

    Paul

    Trump administration sued over phone searches at U.S. borders
    https://ca.news.yahoo.com/trump-administration-sued-over-phone-searches-u-borders-150448413.html

  • #21317 Reply

    Tim

    We can all talk about this until we’re blue in the face. I for one am tired of reading articles I call ” hope for the sex offender” we are standing alone in a fight thats going to take more yrs to win than I have left to live. There are 800,000 of us on the registry. Obviously some cannot protest due to their circumstances but I feel the ones that can should. I’d be willing to help get a protest under way if I have help from people who know the correct process. Would any Lawyers, Politicians, NARSOL or Law Enforcement be willing to back us and march with us. The time to act is now! The proof is there. We (SO) should all be tired of this treatment by our government, local, state and federal. It’s time to gain our freedom back. The article was a good read but if we don’t act it’s going to be forgotten as time goes by. Does anyone out there believe your ever going to see complete freedom now that your in the system? I have no chance to see myself getting off the registry before I die. I’m 58 with 20 more yrs to register. Im off probation and I’m ready to get off this damn registry and be a free human being once again. I will not be controlled by these people for the rest of my life. Texas and Florida have proven that they think we are not fit to live. To hell with these people who believe that. I viewed child porn on a computer. That does not give anyone what so ever, the right to take away my freedom for life. Fight back and stand up to be heard. The government has pushed and controlled us far to long. It’s time for our rights to be reinstated as the constitution states.

  • #21311 Reply

    Paul

    Everyone go to drudge report paste link in email or news tip box ask to be posted !

    DRUDGE :

    http://www.drudgereport.com/

    Link to NY Times article and vid. :

  • #21297 Reply

    Paul B.

    Now if only cut pieces of this to fit AD spots and buy time on news networks and youtube no skip ads

  • #21300 Reply

    Tim

    This is a good place to vent and to read about all the horrible treatment we get as sex offenders but :: does anyone else read this but us? I’ve come to the realization that there are very few people in the court systems or the goverment that really give a damn about sex offenders.

  • #21301 Reply

    William Hagen

    Agree with Eliza. Also ask the same question regarding SCOTUS. Please update any U.S. Supreme Court reviews pending or otherwise. Great piece of material. W.H.

  • #21284 Reply

    Eliza

    Excellent.
    I hope this is seen by many many people.

    At the end of the video clip in the credits there was mention of the Supreme Court reviewing these draconian laws . Can you please go into some detail about that discussion/ review.

  • #21273 Reply

    Randy in PA

    It would be great if Grady Judd, the sheriff of Polk County Florida would watch this, but I doubt he would. He is the law inforcement officer who announced his office would be checking ID’s and turning away registered sex offenders who went to storm shelters before hurricane Irma. How can anyone still believe that registry is not punishment!!

  • #21268 Reply

    Tom

    For the love of God, circulate, circulate, circulate!!! Every legislator in every corner of this country needs to see this. I wish the person responsible for this serious thinking error, (Justice Kennedy) were forced to view this.

  • #21264 Reply

    Tony From Long Island

    I just watched this great, great piece. I have a smile on my face. People are starting to realize what I have been screaming about for years 🙂 It has been a good few months for fairness.

    • #21274 Reply

      Randy in PA

      No fairness in Florida where registered sex offenders where turned away from hurricane shelters.

  • #21262 Reply

    Saddles

    Human nature thinks they are so smarter than the other person but basically we are all equal. Why do you think Jesus made that statement to the Pharisee’s about but I say if you even look at a woman to lust in your heart you’ve committed adultery with her. Now is that science or logic? Talk about cutting the other down or should they just have power of attorney, or power, over the sex offender for the rest of his or her life?
    So what do we say when we are around kids or is it getting to the state that we all should go around with a T-shirt that says I’m a sex offender stay away from me. It puts a sour note in anyone’s mind about these offenses. But on a good not when anybody offenses us who’s the blame. The one that is perpetrating the offense or the one duping or conning one. I don’t care if you have the most potty mouth in the world. Two wrongs don’t make a right.
    They say actions speak louder than words but at times you have to confront those actions dead on and see who’s calling one’s bluff. So is their a trick or treat for everybody. I think we all should get serious as we all have heard some good come out of this by way of the court systems and we still need to fight each and everyone that is on the registry and can stand up for their fellow person caught up in this hoopla.

  • #21249 Reply

    Alex

    Love how a good percentage of this 8 minute video was mostly focused on Florida. The birthplace of these modern draconian laws.

    I’m circulating this video everywhere I can. Great little piece.

    • #21260 Reply

      Donna

      @Alex

      Yup,
      Showing Florida’s capital building, its governer Rick Scott signing SO scorched Earth laws, Lauren Book with her non sense, President Bush signing AWA next to Mark Foley and John Walsh of FL, the homeless registrants in Miami, a shot of the Florida Senate Chambers. etc. . .*sigh*

  • #21247 Reply

    Kendal

    I am estimating that since it has been over 25 years since my offense my risk of recidivism in the realm of 0.00000000001 %. Is this the frightening and high risk they are talking about. I am sure there are many more people on this board that can state the same. At some point they have to say, well if you haven’t done it in this many years, there is more than a good chance that you are not going to do it again.

    Currently I am working on getting off the sex offender list as Colorado has now ruled that it is punishment, and as such, it is Ex Post Facto, but even if I do get off, I still won’t be able to do things a normal citizen does, such as go on vacation, as if I am in another state for more than a few days, then I have to register there, and de-register when I leave. I won’t be able to travel abroad. So yeah, I may be off the list here, but I am still not whole.

    This whole thing because of some stupid article, in some stupid magazine, that didn’t even say what they say it said. When will the madness stop?

    • #21266 Reply

      JR H

      Hi Kendal,
      I am not 100 convinced you are correct on this.
      It is my understanding that “if you are REQUIRED, to register in your home state”, than you must notify other states.

      If you are NOT required to register in your Home state, there is no need to notify other states.

      I THINK this is accurate.

      Good Luck
      JR

      • #21299 Reply

        Jerry P.

        I too am under the impression that if I get off the registry in NC that if I ever visited another state I would be required to notify the proper authorities in the state I am visiting of my previous sex offense…

        • #21324 Reply

          Jeremy from Indiana

          I think this highly depends on the state. Some states don’t go off of your registration status in other states. For instance: My state of Indiana says if you were convicted of the same offense in another state (or an offense substantially similar) you are required to register in Indiana if you live, work, or attend school here. I’ve researched other states and most of their statutes say something similar.

          It will take some research because a large amount of states (Indiana is one) have also declared the registry as punishment, although Colorado is the first to attach the eighth amendment to that. If your claim is that of ex post facto, then you shouldn’t have to register in that state you’re visiting if it’s been declared punishment there, but if your claim is on eighth amendment grounds or due process grounds, you probably will, at least for now.

        • #21408 Reply

          Kendal

          And a lot of states add in “Or are present in this state for four days or more”

  • #21244 Reply

    B. Combs

    Good Grief,

    All of the nation’s registry laws are based upon thin air or basically made up as the research did not exist because no studies existed. Built upon a house of cards, the courts will ultimately bend to the direction of logic based on current research.

    The video references a Supreme Court case. Was that the Packingham v. North Carolina decision or a new case?

    Brett

  • #21245 Reply

    Fred
    Keymaster

    Isn’t it encouraging that the New York Times and the Washington Post are running these stories? Now if we could just get Fox News and The Drudge Report to do the same.

    • #21486 Reply

      Saddles

      The myth’s of the sex offender. Well myth’s are myth’s to be exact. Sure there going to be someone that is going to mess around with a teenage gal. That has been going on all thru history and the dawn of ages. I wonder if its still legal to stone someone today. I mentioned one day that I still get these messages like hi sexy.. lets have some fun or hot gal looking for fun or something like that.
      Now I’m sure you all get those types of messages on your computer. Sure I avoid them but I mentioned this to my probation officer and I said I bet you a dime to a dollar that those are police officers conning again. Before all this trouble I never got one such message. I’m sure if someone was to look into this chances are that its an undercover scheme waiting to happen.
      I really think someone should check into this as actually they are soliciting on the internet and posing as a teenager. Wouldn’t put it past they. Like Fred said, its all about the money.

    • #21267 Reply

      Jim

      Fox news probably won’t touch it, but in light of their own recent scandals that seems a bit odd to me. Matt Drudge might, but that is likely a Longshot as well. He’s got some spine to take on the hard issues, but it remains to see if he has the integrity to stand for the “uncomfortable” truth ( from a media perspective). Gotta keep in mind that a lot of the base for both Drudge and Fox have a tendency to be extreme in these matters.

  • #21234 Reply

    NH Registrant

    I blame the Media, Politicians, and the Prison Profiteers. I don’t even blame law enforcement anymore because – in speaking to a lot of them – I have found that the majority of them don’t want the “registry”. It protects no one. None of the draconian laws they imposed have done ANYTHING to protect children. If the politicians want to protect children for real, they should stop stealing their educational funding, food stamps and other social funding, and stop bombing them into oblivion in other countries on a regular basis! Sex Offender legislation is all a huge SCAM – like most other things in govt. including property taxes!

    It really bothers me to see the zealotry in the beginning of the documentary video. There are many people like that in the world at large. Most are cowards who wouldn’t do a single thing when asked to act on their words. But, they are a loud, vocal group who either act on hatred/loathing/revenge or they are being paid to do so by those who would profit from stuffing our prisons full of “sex offenders” many of whom – like I was – are innocent of what they were charged with. If you’re poor in this country, and can only afford a Public “Pretender” (deal maker for the State), then you are certain of a prison or jail stay. Innocence doesn’t even get considered. So many people forget that or are just plain ignorant of it. They have no idea how much the so-called “justice” system is skewed against those who don’t have the money to defend themselves. It’s rigged – and those involved know it.

  • #21236 Reply

    Mary

    This is such a great piece. Been sending it out to a few legislators, news media, judicial court judges/clerks, and any in those fields with the link to this. Hope this circulates even more so.

  • #21237 Reply

    Tony From Long Island

    I have been screaming about the “frightening and high” myth since I read doe v. Smith. The easiest way to succinctly state it is that the Supreme Court is misquoting itself. Justice Kennedy was taking McKune v. Lyle (2001) out of context. McKune was a case about those who refuse treatment. The full quote from Justice Kennedy was ” . . . . [t]his gives inmates a basis to understand why they are being punished and to identify the traits that cause such a frightening and high risk of recidivism. . . . ” In Doe, Justice Kennedy took himself out of context and just about every case regarding sex offenders since has followed suit. . . . . Hopefully courts can begin to understand and correct this legal farce. . . . . Of course, we’re all aware of the plethora of recidivism research done in the last 15 years since McKune and Doe.

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