That’s the sort of response you can expect if you write about the broad category known as “sex offenders” and suggest that not all of them are the same or that some of them are punished too severely. In this case, I had noted that the decision to prosecute Fogle under federal law, which had been justified by factors that had little or nothing to do with the gravity of his offenses, had a dramatic impact on the penalty he was likely to receive.
Fogle ultimately was sentenced to nearly 16 years in prison, a penalty that was upheld by a federal appeals court in June. Had he been prosecuted under state law for the same actions, his sentence could have been as short as six months (the minimum penalty for possessing child pornography in Indiana, where Fogle lived) or as long as four years (the maximum penalty for an adult 21 or older who has sex with a 16-year-old in New York, where Fogle met the prostitutes).
The arbitrariness of Fogle’s punishment should trouble anyone who thinks fairness, consistency, and proportionality are essential to a criminal justice system worthy of the name. But the conjunction of two fraught topics—children and sex—makes it hard for people to think clearly about such matters. The fear and disgust triggered by this subject help explain why laws dealing with sex offenses involving minors frequently lead to bizarre results, including wildly disproportionate sentences, punishment disguised as regulation or treatment, and penalties for committing unintentional crimes, recording your own legal behavior, or looking at pictures of nonexistent children.
Unlike Russell Taylor, who ran Fogle’s charitable foundation, Fogle was not accused of producing child pornography. He was instead charged with looking at photographs and video of “minors as young as approximately 13–14 years” who were “secretly filmed in Taylor’s current and former residences.”
According to the government’s statement of charges, Taylor produced that material “using multiple hidden cameras concealed in clock radios positioned so that they would capture the minors changing clothes, showering, bathing, or engaging in other activities.” He also gave Fogle a thumb drive containing “commercial child pornography” featuring minors as young as 6. Fogle “on one occasion” showed this material to “another person.” That became the basis for a distribution charge, which was dropped as part of Fogle’s plea agreement. Fogle’s lawyers say that incident involved “one individual with whom [he] was then involved romantically, and it occurred in the confines of a locked hotel room.”
The voyeuristic material that Taylor produced did not involve sexual abuse of children. According to the charges, the guests caught on Taylor’s cameras “did not know that they were being secretly filmed.” Taylor’s actions, which earned him a 27-year prison sentence, were obviously an outrageous invasion of privacy and breach of trust, and Fogle bears responsibility, at the very least, for allowing the secret recordings to continue by failing to report him. (Taylor, seeking leniency, claimed Fogle had actually encouraged him to install the cameras.) But what Taylor did is not the same as forcing children to engage in sexual activity, and what Fogle did is even further removed from such abuse.
Under federal law, however, looking at child pornography can be punished as severely as sexually assaulting a child. Receiving child pornography, which could mean viewing a single image, triggers a mandatory minimum sentence of five years. The maximum penalty for receiving or distributing child pornography is 20 years, and federal sentencing guidelines recommend stiff enhancements based on factors that are very common in these cases, such as using a computer, possessing more than 600 images (with each video counted as 75 images), and trading images for something of value, including other images.
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Although sex offender registries and the restrictions associated with them are supposedly intended to protect public safety, the evidence suggests they are mainly a way of imposing additional punishment on people who have already completed their sentences. The rationale for publicly accessible registries is that they will protect children by alerting parents to the presence of potential predators. But the Justice Department’s National Crime Victimization Survey indicates that more than 90 percent of sexual offenses against children are committed not by strangers but by relatives, friends, or acquaintances. Furthermore, nearly 9 out of 10 sex offenses are committed by people who were not previously convicted of a crime that would have put their names in a registry. Justice Department data also indicate that sex offenders are much less likely to commit new crimes than commonly supposed—less likely, in fact, than most other kinds of offenders.
Not surprisingly, studies that try to measure the impact of registration laws find little evidence that they work as advertised. If anything, they seem to be counterproductive, probably because they make it harder for sex offenders to reintegrate into society by publicly identifying them as pariahs, limiting their job prospects, and restricting where they can live. In Michigan, for example, registrants are prohibited from living, working, or “loitering” within 1,000 feet of a school, regardless of whether their crimes involved children. A 2013 study funded by the Justice Department found those restrictions were associated with an increase in recidivism. A 2011 analysis in the Journal of Law and Economics likewise found evidence that publicly accessible registries have a perverse effect on recidivism.
Read Jacob Sullum’s article in its entirety here at Reason.com
Fogle had the book thrown at him because he was a public figure who had no “connections” which would hush it all up or lessen his punishment. We all know the Registry is a joke that protects no one. We also know that the only reasons it exists are for free revenue for states and political brownie points from ignorant voters. The public is brainwashed about sex offenders in all media: TV shows, Newscasts, and even movies. I was watching a recent movie where they shoe-horned in an uncle who was taking liberties with his niece. Was it necessary? No. They could have just made him a physically abusive person. But, because people have a sick fascination with wanting to hate others, they put that in and left it as part of the story. Personally, I’m sick of it. I stopped watching specific shows I enjoyed because they started adding sex offenses as humor or propaganda. It’s disgusting to me. But, this is how our society is based: propaganda and manipulation.
It does give me hope, though, when I see people who have “woken up” from the brainwashing our media does on a daily basis. Lots of people know that what they see on TV is complete BS and more people are waking up every day. Sooner or later, the vast majority of people will be aware that they are being lied to. But, by then, will it be too late?
I agree with you, it seems that whoever these people are that have started this have played a masterful Jedi mind trick on the people and to paraphrase what you said “sooner or later vast majority are going to wake up and realize that they’ve been lied to but it will be too late to stop the bad laws from getting passed unless we have the will to strike back and to hold these individuals accountable for what they’ve done”.
The public clams to be disgusted by sexual crimes yet they sure as hell have a macabre fascination and interest in them. Makes you wonder.
Thai Jacob Sullum guy should have replied to that commenter by asking: “So, what exactly does a ‘pervert’ look like? And since there are all types of people from every walk of life from the richest to the poorest who commit sex crimes among other crimes, please enlighten me as to how you can determine someone LOOKS like any such type of criminal. I’m waiting.”
Usually response like that shut the person up. I know. I’ve done it.
I remember hearing a quote on TV or in a movie, not sure where. The person asked: “What does a serial killer look like?” And the response was: “They look like everyone else.” (or something like that)
I remember when I was in prison and someone was trying to figure out why I was being targeted more than others doing time on sex offenses. He said: “Well, you LOOK like a sex offender. That’s why they go after you.” Yeah, right. Prison logic – as dumb as it can get.
Never indulge in accusers’ ad hoc fallacies, it just gives them some kind of merit. These people are the lowest common denominator, and have almost no opinions of their own, they easily eat up everything the Establishment Media feeds them.
This “pedophile panic” phenomenon is just like the panic of terrorist attack from the aftermath of 9/11, with the media presenting worst case scenario that we are in grave danger, so the people will be fearful, and gullible enough to support tough legislation and take action thinking our country will be safe.
A pedophile is a man, heterosexual or homosexual, with a sexual fixation on and obsession with prepubertal children, girls or boys. It’s debatable if a woman can even be a “pedophile” under the APA definition. Demonizing adults as “pedophiles” for having sex with underage pubescent teenagers began with what the mass-media falsely and sensationally labelled the “priestly pedophile crisis.” The height of absurdity is to define adult women as “rapists” and “pedophiles” for allowing biological men under age 16 or even 18 to penetrate them in factually consensual relationships.
Michael Kuehl,
You are exactly right. And the public took the word “pedophile” and ran with it, joyfully.
The majority of my fellow Americans are just plain stoooopiiiiittt. So much so that spelling that way pretty much describes their stupidity.
Also, most people throw the word “pedophile” around in the comments section on News articles just so they can give themselves a pat on the back and look cool to other readers. It’s a word that helps them be insulting towards someone when they can’t think of much else to say because their vocabulary is limited.
The Dobbs Wire: TODAY at the U.S. Supreme Court
by Florida Action Committee | Mar 24, 2017 | Articles, Featured Articles | 1 comment
Today, in a private session, the U.S. Supreme Court will be discussing an important case concerning the sex offense registry. News may come as soon as Monday, March 27th. The State of Michigan has asked the court to review a ground-breaking ruling by a lower federal court, the U.S. Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals. The Supreme Court is set to discuss the request for review today; review is granted in very few cases. If they turn down the request – the 6th Circuit ruling remains intact and directly impacts the states in the 6th Circuit (Michigan, Ohio, Kentucky, Tennessee). If they grant review – anything can happen. If accepted for review, the case would not be heard until the Fall. Below are links to the 6th Circuit ruling, news headlines that explain its importance, and the documents for the Supreme Court review. –Bill Dobbs, The Dobbs Wire
Orders from the March 24th conference will be issued on Monday the 27th, opinions from the March 24th conference will come out Tuesday the 28th and Wednesday the 29th.
March 27th,Today at the U.S. Supreme Court: Today the court granted certiorari in two cases, but John Does #1-5 vs Snyder was not one of them. However, please read below.
16-768 SNYDER, GOV. OF MI, ET AL. V. JOHN DOES #1-5, ET AL.
The Acting Solicitor General is invited to file a brief in
this case expressing the views of the United States.
Not really sure what this means.
Michael and Maestro,
I’m a female, charged with rape. But so many call me a pedophile. Once fallen, Derek Logue is one of the only people I can reach in helping me with the stuff they are doing. Like, right now they have me in sex offender treatment for the third time. And I have NEVER been close to any type of wrong doing. But they see me as being noncompliant just because I won’t sit back and put up with what they do. And as long as I do that, they will continue putting me in SOTP because I’m on parole for life. It’s not enough that they have an ankle monitor on me, I can’t look like a woman, I have a very limited wardrobe. Which maybe the guys don’t really care about that. It’s not a big thing. But so much of what they do irritated me, and I feel like I’m alone on that.
Ty,
This is our world. I spent 5 years in SOTP listening to all the B.S. because that is how they make money. It’s a crooked system. I’m sorry to anyone who believes in the “treatment” they offer – but, most of it is plain common sense. If you did it, don’t do it again. Yes, you hurt people by doing it. Yes, you hurt yourself. If you understand those things, then no further treatment is needed. But, like the registry, it’s a money making scheme. A lot of kickbacks fly around where registrants are involved. They know the public is ignorant about it and hate registrants as much as they hate those boogeymen, the terrorists (which are supposedly around every corner like registrants). I couldn’t imagine being on parole for life. 5 years was bad enough. So, I’m sorry that you’re being treated that way. There should be SOME limit to the years you can be on parole. They should NEVER be able to hand down a life sentence for parole unless you flat out murdered someone in cold blood.
Ty, what do you mean by “rape.” For obvious anatomical reasons, women can’t commit rape in the pure and literal sense of the word. Exactly what were you convicted of that was so heinous that it mandates a life-sentence of parole and electronic monitoring with an ankle-tether/”bracelet”?